(2017-05-25 16:27)Owl Wrote:  Also Drivere, your comments and argument are completely based off bullshit read/viewed on the Internet. Therefore I'm having a hard time believing anything you say. Didn't your mummy and daddy tell you not to believe everything you see on the internet?

(2017-05-25 17:36)dyzio2206 Wrote:  so.. YES the christians Did bad things as well as the muslims but with one basic difference.. christians did these in the MIDDLE AGES. the fanatic/radical christian didn't drive a truck towards the croud, he didn't commit suicide bombing in civilian gatherings and other public activities.
today the fanatic/radical muslim has a wide variety of armament and we have seen the results.
times where different and so was the body count..

and the only reason no one thinks about other attacks due to religion is that they are politically motivated in most cases and not religious,
they are also continuously active from old times until now... IRA to be specific is from '98 and the last claimed attack was on march '17.. plus it is region specific.. Northern Ireland to be more precise..
if we add all the terrorist group attacks from all the countries with sole factor what are the religious beliefs of the attackers we will get out of hand with the numbers..

when i compare the average Christian with the average Muslim in terms of how strict is each to the following of his holly book(Bible or Quran respectively) i see that Muslims are more hardcore believers than Christians.. and that can cause problems in some cases..

(2017-05-25 17:46)Brixton Wrote:  Startquestion was "Is the islam a religion of peace". My opitinon again: Religions are not peacfull or brutal. People are. It doen´t matter what you believe, it matter what you think.

Quote:and the only reason no one thinks about other attacks due to religion is that they are politically motivated in most cases and not religious

(2017-05-25 19:06)Drivere Wrote:  The definition of "terrorism" is not so to-the-point, allowing a wide range of examples to be branded as "terrorism," such as anti-abortion violence, environmental terrorism, black radicalism, Puerto Rican nationalism, antisemitism, white supremacy, and left-wing and right-wing extremism as well as anti-government movements. What most people think of when they hear the word "terrorism" is almost always related to religious groups and bombs and/or shootings. Now, let's joke for a moment: I haven't heard a Christian go out and bomb themselves in a crowd, shouting, "For the Lord!" or "God, save me!"

"Of the one thousand terror attacks (yet, again, notice the unclear definition), Muslims were less than 2%." That's just simply wrong when looking at the source of that quote. The original source says, "Less than 2 percent of terrorist attacks in the EU are religiously motivated." The article was written in early 2015. As we all know, in the wake of the refugee crisis, we can only guess what the future has in store. Now that European countries have easily been infiltrated by potential militants, the next terror attack is not only a potential threat but a matter of time.

I think we derailed a little bit. There are peaceful Muslims, yes. But I think we were talking about why Islam isn't the best religion when it comes to preventing terror attacks. Once again, the underlying issue can be found in the holy book.

And, I'm sorry, I disagree with you about how "Islam is portrayed as a horrible religion by the media." As a Christian myself, I do abominate Islam, quite frankly. Its views on various things are, to me as a person who grew up in the West and still in a diverse culture with various types of people, very wrong. I think I can safely say that it does that to itself.

(2017-05-25 19:06)Drivere Wrote:  Now, let's joke for a moment: I haven't heard a Christian go out and bomb themselves in a crowd, shouting, "For the Lord!" or "God, save me!"

(2017-05-25 16:06)Drivere Wrote:  

(2017-05-25 15:06)GOOMB Wrote:  I just wanted you to know that the first Muslim held terrorist attack was in the 1970's and Islam has been around since 610 CE.

Well... I'm sure you do know that bloodily conquering other nations and terrorizing non-believers in the meantime were (or are?) just as bad. Now, I do know of the crusades, so you need not remind me.

(2017-05-25 20:52)dyzio2206 Wrote:  let me remind you nick that most of those wars were territorial/political and not religious why does everybody pick IRA?? they where christians fighting christians for whatever reason..

(2017-05-25 17:46)Brixton Wrote:  People like Chuck who think the solution is a wall against alle the others around us (nearly a fun fact that he write that as a german in a english forum, wich exists in cause of a server where people from all over the world play).

(2017-05-25 17:46)Brixton Wrote:  Oh and just so on edge: I grown up on a region with very low % of migrants. I was in some serious fights with some nazi and antifa guys sime time. We have rapes, we have thiefs, we have violance as well. Mainly in cause of some german idiots who are live there since birth.

And the feeling we have more violence and more criminals is a wrong feeling in cause of the mass of information in the social media age.

(2017-05-26 06:39)Chuck Wrote:  You're pretty much missing the point. I'm not against different cultures, I'm against mixing them up against all odds.

(2017-05-26 06:39)Chuck Wrote:  Well, feel privileged to grow up in a "German" place. Funnily, you are judging me for demanding exactly that for all Germans. But I can ensure you, there are many different places than that. Almost every bigger city has problems with ghettos and so called "No-go-areas". Dortmund (source) , Duisburg (source), Hamburg, Berlin, just to name some. In Hamburg, almost 50% of all children come from a migrant background (source). Berlin has a migrant rate of 30%, which is particularly interesting seeing that Berlin was isolated by the Russians until 1989. So that all happened in less than 28 years.

Whether you want to see it or not, but those numbers don't lie and I didn't make them up on my own.

Quote:The german propaganda ministry certainly would be proud to hear that their messages were received.