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Don't Know The Problem - Trance - 2012-07-06 23:51

Okies so i tested my graphic card and thats not the problem coz it works.

So here is the story then hopefully u guys can give me your imput to try and figur out the problem of how much is gonna cost.

So a little while ago i was watching something on youtube when my computer turned its self off, not like shutting down.. it just went off.
So i turned it back on. and what was happening it would start to boot up like start for 3-5 seconds then it would turn its self off. So i left it for about 10 mins doing that.. then it would boot up 100% and stay on but there was nothing on the screen. when i say nothing i mean. " You know when u guys shut your computers down for the night, and your monitors go from a green light. to a amber light.. well thats what was happening with mine.

So when i took out the graphic card and it booted up streight away.. thats why i thought it may i have been the graphic card.. but that dose not seem to be the problem.

so could it the prosessor, or the motherboard.or maybe the hard drive

i'm praying its not the motherboard..

so if u guys have had simalar experainces and u think u may not the problem.. please post and let me know.. cheers!

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Tom - 2012-07-07 00:36

normally things like this happen when ur pc is over heating, mainly ur cpu, every cpu has a cut off point if it gets to hot it will just shut off instant, i would recommened removing the heatsink and fan from cpu and see if the thermal paste is paste or solid, if it is solid its gonna be taking little heat from cpu which will cause it to heat up over time and shut off instanly, plus if it was ur cpu dieing it wouldnt instantly shut off it would freez/studder all the time Smile

edit: if it is solid the paste i would recommened getting it changed with some artic thermal paste from any pc shop for like 5 pound Smile

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Pete - 2012-07-07 00:59

When you removed the graphics card, what stage did it get to before you thought there might be another problem?

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Trance - 2012-07-07 02:40

(2012-07-07 00:36)Tom Wrote: normally things like this happen when ur pc is over heating, mainly ur cpu, every cpu has a cut off point if it gets to hot it will just shut off instant, i would recommened removing the heatsink and fan from cpu and see if the thermal paste is paste or solid, if it is solid its gonna be taking little heat from cpu which will cause it to heat up over time and shut off instanly, plus if it was ur cpu dieing it wouldnt instantly shut off it would freez/studder all the time

edit: if it is solid the paste i would recommened getting it changed with some artic thermal paste from any pc shop for like 5 pound

i left it for a few days, but it still won't turn on

(2012-07-07 00:59)Lampshade Wrote: When you removed the graphics card, what stage did it get to before you thought there might be another problem?

when i removed the graphic card the computer seemed to start up streight away. however the comp does not have onboard graphics. but when the card was in it strugled to start.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Tom - 2012-07-07 09:51

cpu can heat up in seconds Smile

leaving it weeks would do nothing Smile

RE: Don't Know The Problem - KaraK - 2012-07-07 09:54

Quote:
(2012-07-07 00:59)Lampshade Wrote: When you removed the graphics card, what stage did it get to before you thought there might be another problem?

when i removed the graphic card the computer seemed to start up streight away. however the comp does not have onboard graphics. but when the card was in it strugled to start.

I'm not a pro, but it looks like it's the GPU.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Cola - 2012-07-07 10:29

How big is your powersupply? Maybe it hasn't got enough power to run the graphicscard.

What is your PC specs?
(If you dunno, go to start, type in 'dxdiag' and press enter. Click Yes when promted. Copy the details from the open window, and press the tab called "Display(1)", and then copy that text as well, and paste it all here) Wink

RE: Don't Know The Problem - SLiiDE - 2012-07-07 12:26

I was thinking PSU too, Maybe your PSU has died and it cant get enough power to run everything as well as GPU, hence why it turns on when you take it out, as it doesn't need to power it any more. Im no expert though...

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Trance - 2012-07-07 15:20

Processor:Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory:G-Skill DDR2 PC8500 1066MHz 4096MB RAM
Hard Drive:1.5 TB
Video Card:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Atrix 800Watt Extreme Power

so it could be the power supply.

Also while playing LFS for about 2-3 hours.. it would turn its self off..

Cola i can't start my computer.. as it won't start.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Elmo - 2012-07-07 16:03

Atrix 800Watt Extreme Power <-- prime suspect. I've never heard of Atrix, they don't have a website, and the only list I've found with them in was a "Replace ASAP" list.

So, regardless of whether the PSU is the problem or not (certainly sounds like it is) you should replace it with a proper brand, high quality PSU.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - SLiiDE - 2012-07-07 16:09

Heres a few PSU which aren't too expensive and are good brands:

Corsair TX750 V2 750W - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-750TXV2UK-Enthusiast-Series-Performance/dp/B004O0P9VC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-1

Thermaltake Smart Series 850w - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermaltake-Smart-Series-80plus-Supply/dp/B0079RFCPA/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-10

Corsair TX Series, 650 Watt - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-Supply-Version-CMPSU-650TXUK/dp/B000Z7KHLA/ref=sr_1_19?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677268&sr=1-19

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Cola - 2012-07-07 16:31

(2012-07-07 15:20)Trance Wrote: Processor:Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory:G-Skill DDR2 PC8500 1066MHz 4096MB RAM
Hard Drive:1.5 TB
Video Card:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Atrix 800Watt Extreme Power

so it could be the power supply.

Also while playing LFS for about 2-3 hours.. it would turn its self off..

Cola i can't start my computer.. as it won't start.

Tried opening it and removing the little battery on the MBO for 30 secs? (Remember to put it back in after the 30 secs)

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Trance - 2012-07-07 16:54

(2012-07-07 16:09)SLiiDE Wrote: Heres a few PSU which aren't too expensive and are good brands:

Corsair TX750 V2 750W - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-750TXV2UK-Enthusiast-Series-Performance/dp/B004O0P9VC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-1

Thermaltake Smart Series 850w - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermaltake-Smart-Series-80plus-Supply/dp/B0079RFCPA/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-10

Corsair TX Series, 650 Watt - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-Supply-Version-CMPSU-650TXUK/dp/B000Z7KHLA/ref=sr_1_19?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677268&sr=1-19

Tbh not sure if 650 watt would be powerfull enough.
Think i'll be sticking to 800W just to be on the safe side

(2012-07-07 16:03)Elmo Wrote: Atrix 800Watt Extreme Power <-- prime suspect. I've never heard of Atrix, they don't have a website, and the only list I've found with them in was a "Replace ASAP" list.

So, regardless of whether the PSU is the problem or not (certainly sounds like it is) you should replace it with a proper brand, high quality PSU.

Totally Agree with u. must replace it. My other Question. If it is that which has died, Will it have taken out anything els. Link killed anything els in my comp?

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Cola - 2012-07-07 17:09

(2012-07-07 16:54)Trance Wrote:
(2012-07-07 16:09)SLiiDE Wrote: Heres a few PSU which aren't too expensive and are good brands:

Corsair TX750 V2 750W - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-750TXV2UK-Enthusiast-Series-Performance/dp/B004O0P9VC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-1

Thermaltake Smart Series 850w - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermaltake-Smart-Series-80plus-Supply/dp/B0079RFCPA/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677178&sr=1-10

Corsair TX Series, 650 Watt - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-Supply-Version-CMPSU-650TXUK/dp/B000Z7KHLA/ref=sr_1_19?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1341677268&sr=1-19

Tbh not sure if 650 watt would be powerfull enough.
Think i'll be sticking to 800W just to be on the safe side

650 watts is enough for your system.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - SLiiDE - 2012-07-07 17:12

My system runs a 500W PSU, Ive got FX-4100, 12gb DDR3, HD6850 1GB. 650 should be more than enough for your system.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Elmo - 2012-07-09 00:22

Cheap brand PSUs are pretty much always over-optimistic about how much power they can produce. The wattage stated on cheap ones is usually peak, rather than continuous - Quality PSUs quote continuous power.

I have a cheap EZ-Cool "650W" PSU that can provide less 12v power total than a single rail on my OCZ 550W PSU. The OCZ has three 12v rails capable of providing up to 480W total @ 12V.

Your system would actually be just about OK with a 400W high quality brand PSU. For some safety headroom, aim for a 500-650W Antec, Corsair, Enermax or OCZ.

Something like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/363095-ocz-500w-corexstream-psu-ocz-cxs500w-uk
or this: http://www.ebuyer.com/264509-ocz-zs-series-550w-80-bronze-psu-with-135mm-fan-single-ocz-zs550w-uk
should be plenty.

(I haven't shopped around to see if there's anything cheaper, but those are the type of specifications you're after)

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Cola - 2012-07-09 10:21

E:
I can also recommend Silver Power, (Made by Seasonic which is very high quality) or Chill. Otherwise those Elmo meantioned are great as well.

RE: Don't Know The Problem - Trance - 2012-07-10 17:49

so i took my computer in mon-09. i got a missted . so i phoned back.

they took my compuiter to bits and put it back again.. i heard if say that, and then i was like s!hit, how much is this gonna cost, then his reply was. There must have been a dry join. and they coudnt find anything wrong.

So i'm gonna go round tomorow and pick it up. i'm also gonna upgrade and get another 4 gig put it there. and i'm gonna buy a new mic coz it only works in 1 ear..

thanx for the help anyway guys