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Processor Swapping - Tommer - 2012-08-24 19:56

Hi all,

Processors aren't normally my area and googling around keeps producing irrelevent results so I figured i'd ask this here.

I'm wondering if I can swap the onboard processor with the same processor but at a higher ghz..

Onboard my PC is a 3.2Ghz Pentium 4 and onboard this uhh 'pile of parts' for a machine is a 3.4Ghz P4..

I read before that different processors have different pins/sockets etc but will these be the same since they are essentially both Pentium 4's except with a different clock/ghz thing?

Yes I know Pentium 4's are dated. Tongue


RE: Processor Swapping - FR4NOx - 2012-08-24 20:30

Sure you can. I don't know if the higher GHz one produces any more heat. You should find out the model of the 3.4GHz one and Google it. Some may be a 478 socket while some may be a 775 socket.


RE: Processor Swapping - Tom - 2012-08-24 21:56

some p4s are 478 which are the pins on the cpu and the 775 p4s are the one with little holes in, check the MB models online and it will tell u etc Wink


RE: Processor Swapping - Tommer - 2012-08-24 22:19

I suspect that they are the same motherboards, since the PC's are quite similar. The 3.4Ghz is in the Dell Dimension 5000 and my 3.2 in the Dimension 5150

[Image: delldimension5000.jpg]
Dimension 5000

[Image: dell_dimension_5150.jpg]
5150

None the less i'll check tommorow before I do anything


RE: Processor Swapping - Tom - 2012-08-24 22:42

yer they will be both the same mate Smile


RE: Processor Swapping - Zipppy - 2012-08-25 01:33

it might be the same Processor line, but not exactly the same model.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors

When I think of a higher clocked CPU, It think it's just working a bit harder. As long as you have proper cooling, it shouldn't be much of a difference.


RE: Processor Swapping - Elmo - 2012-08-25 15:01

P4s are the hottest running CPUs ever made. If you've already got a 3.4, there's no point getting a faster P4, it won't make enough difference to be worth it (8% max).
If you have a socket 775 motherboard, you may be able to get a core2 for it, although being a dell who knows what'll actually work in the thing.

(2012-08-24 22:19)Tommer Wrote:  I suspect that they are the same motherboards, since the PC's are quite similar
It's a Dell, don't count on it. The same model number will sometimes have different motherboards depending on the age and the original spec. The same case will often have very different specs. If the cases are visibly different, there's a good chance that the motherboards will also be different.


RE: Processor Swapping - FR4NOx - 2012-08-26 03:16

What's nice about Dell is that they post their specifications online, that's where I get my info for my XPS Gen 2.

5000 Specs(not very specific): http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim5000/en/sm/specs0.htm#wp1052310

5150: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim5150/en/sm/specs1.htm

Intel's ARK (Pentium 4): http://ark.intel.com/products/family/581/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor/desktop

Looks like the 5150 has a P4 that is actually numbered, which means that it's a PPGA775/PLGA775 PC. The 4000 is most likely a PPGA478. Around 2005 is when PPA775/PLGA775 came out I think...not sure if it's entirely compatible with LGA775.

I hate how vague Intel can be at times with their ARK.

Would you be willing to give us a CPU-Z screenshot from your 3.2 system?


RE: Processor Swapping - Elmo - 2012-08-26 17:10

What's not so nice about Dell is that they often reuse model numbers with a completely new generation.

Also, without the actual motherboard part number (CPU-Z or the BIOS often displays it) you never know what it actually supports and as Dell don't document their parts fully, the only way to actually know is based on others' experiences with it.