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Your LFS Username:stanis96

- Time & Date of Incident: 2/11/2014

- Replay / Screenshot Link:https://www.dropbox.com/s/ef0leu3pnmavzon/stanis96.mpr?dl=0
- Replay Timestamps: 1:43.00

- Reasons as to why you think you deserve a refund:

1:43.00 join on chase

1:44.00 block roundabout and go wrong siding, he U-turn me to, and me crash with a civilian im say sorry.

1:46.00 he U-turn and me to, im go wrong siding im brake and dont crash.

1:48.00 to avoid an accident im go wrong side. And chase finish.

1:48.48 Im speeding no chase/call to go pits and im have a big crash. (i dont see he)

The remaining time to pursue another person with 3 cops more and fine other for speeding.
Replay: http://www.filedropper.com/coprevocationstanis96
Hopefully all the timestamps are correct.

Wrong siding causing danger:
  • Wrong siding at 1:45:05 and meets the suspect on the wrong side because the suspect did a U-Turn.
  • Wrong siding at 1:45:10 and hits a civilian on the wrong side. Goes on to arguably endanger another car.
  • Wrong siding at 1:46:10 and endangers a cop in the chase.
  • Wrong siding at 1:46:46, wasn't too bad though.
  • Wrong siding at 1:47:25 with traffic.

Speeding

At 1:48:28 you are no longer in a chase - you lost contact. You had turned off your strobe etc., and you go down to the speed limit. This is all absolutely fine.
  • A little later you start majorly speeding and end up hitting somebody - this is partly due to your speed, but also partly due to the guy's random driving. You were not in a chase or in a call during this time.

My further justification:
  • I was aware you had a cop warning today for something unrelated. You have also had your cop rights revoked before for wrong siding in a chase when there was traffic. You have not learnt from your past hence why I think it is appropriate for you to take basic and advanced training, thus hopefully ironing out your cop related issues.



Anyway, this will probably be left to a leader to review.

Thanks.
I lost my rights before for don't have experience you are very hard im play as cop all days and i don't have any problem. Today in 5 minuts i lost my rights.
I know I have done something wrong but do not think it's enough to lost my cop licence and having to wait a month to do training.
In my opinion the sanction is very hard, I have not given any warning.
I'm a good cop now i have experience, i'm pass one time the Basic training i don't need again and I have Earring doing advanced training.
You had a cop warning earlier that day, of which you did not heed. Even though it was for something unrelated, it was still to do with being a cop. At that point you should've been more vigilant, instead of being dangerous in a chase and speeding outside of a chase/call.
I have a warning today for closing against barrier and im speak with Warped and i understood, this has nothing to do with that.
Not sure if you saw my edit:

BP Wrote:Even though it was for something unrelated, it was still to do with being a cop. At that point you should've been more vigilant, instead of being dangerous in a chase and speeding outside of a chase/call.

In any event, I don't think I'm able to add anything further, so please await a leader's response.
Wrong siding:

http://www.filedropper.com/1_134

1:45.12 Hits a civilian on the wrong side at 40km/h (i was going slow was not much danger).

http://www.filedropper.com/2_57

1:46.10 endangers a cop in the chase, everyone turned without any blow.

http://www.filedropper.com/3_38

1:46.46 look map and go back my laƱe safely.

http://www.filedropper.com/4_16

1:47.25 The suspect U-turns and me too, and i brake to avoid traffic.

Speeding:

http://www.filedropper.com/5_16

I was going too fast and it was impossible to avoid that stopped in the middle of the road, this part of track was very dark and i see very late.

My justification:

I find nothing very dangerous, im speeding one time not consistently. Don't had no serious accident wrong siding.
Regarding a few points of your justification:

You were dangerous multiple times. Also, it is impossible for you to say there was no danger when you hit someone on the wrong side. That is the danger.

stanis96 Wrote:I was going too fast and it was impossible to avoid that stopped in the middle of the road

Yes! You're getting it. Hence speeding as a cop.

stanis96 Wrote:im speeding one time not consistently.

Oh, no. You can never speed as a cop, no matter if it's 1 time or 100 times. As long as it is purposeful or consistent, it is actionable.

This is still being discussed on the inside so please have patience.
Your cop rights have been re-granted.

You've already passed the cop test (since the revocation) which covers a lot of copping theory. The reason for your revoke wasn't to do with your skill per se, but rather the theory (i.e. don't speed as a cop, don't endanger civilians). A warning might've been better suited in any case.

Even though your rights have been granted, treat this as a warning. You already know what you did wrong. Follow the posted speed limits when not in a chase or a call; also, always drive safely when you're a cop in a chase. This is for your own benefit.

Do you understand this?
Yes understood, thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A good outcome for all. Thanks

Your refund request has been approved.

Thank you.

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