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+ sustained application of force in a chase (Report Archived by Ice) - AlpBura06 - 2024-03-20 01:37

Users Involved
Your LFS Username: AlpBura06

Their LFS Username(s): sametttpe
Their In-game Nickname(s): [6S] Samet

Incident Information
Date of Incident: 17.03.2024
Time of Incident: 03.00 UTC

Description of Incident (Include Timestamps):
-03:06.40 :from the very beginning of the chase he hit my rear bumper first and dragged me towards the lights, he pushed through my car door and hit the left rear fender of my car and spun me around here are the pictures 1. 2. 3.
-03.09.25 :where he deliberately cuts in front of me and damages the bars of my car picture 4.
-03.09.35 :Here he took me in front of him, hit the rear bumper and dragged me to the lights. This continues until 03.09.47 pictures 5 6 7
-03.10.17 :Here he brakes on purpose and squeezes me into the barrier, damaging the rods of my vehicle. Picture 8
-03.10.54 : he takes me in front of him, I didn't brake or anything, he comes and continues to hit me from behind. Picture 9 10 11
-03.11.51 : Even though I dodge my car from him, he comes and hits my left rear door and crashes my car into the barrier. Picture 12
-03.12.08 :
It hits the full insulation of my car and hits the left rear fender and hits the left front door and drags me and pushes me into the corner picture 13
-03.12.30 :Here I am getting in front of him and he comes and hits me from my rear bumper. Picture 14
-03.12.31 :and he continues to hit from behind again. Picture 15
-03.12.36 :
Even though I try to move to the right lane, he hits me from behind, pushes me into the left lane and tries to throw me into the barriers. Picture 16 17
-03.12.52 :It hits the right rear door of the car, destabilizing the car, and hits the left front doors. Picture 18 19
-03.12.55 :He hits the right rear door of the car and applies force to the right front door of the car. picture 20 21 22
-03.12.58 :He deliberately hits the left rear of the car. Picture 23
-03.14.36 :He deliberately breaks in front of the car and jams my vehicle into the barrier, damaging the rods of my vehicle. Picture 24
-03.14.47 :He deliberately hits the back of the car and drags me until 03:14:54 picture 25 26
-03.15.18 :It hit the right rear door of my car, pinning me against the barriers and damaging the car's tie rods. Picture 27
-03.15.32 :He deliberately pushes my car through the right rear door of my vehicle. Picture 28
-03.16.23 :He hits me from the right front door of my car. Picture 29
-03.17.39 :He hits me from the back of my car and pushes me by hitting the car door. Picture 30 31
-03.17.49 :He hits from the back of the car and hits the left front door of the car and drags me. At 03.17.52 he pushes me by hitting the features of the car and at 03.17.54 he hits the right front fender of the car and hits the right rear door of the car and makes me spin 03.17.57 picture 32 33 34 35 36
-03.18.48 :I get in front of him and he hits me from behind on purpose. Picture 37
-03.19.48 :It hit the rear bumper of the car and dragged it until the red lights on 03.19.57 picture 38 39
-03.20.29 :It hits the rear bumper of the car and drags it until this time 03.20.43 picture 40 41
-03.21.52 :It hit the right front door of my car and threw me into the barrier, and the rods of my car are bent. Picture 42 43
-03.25.15 : He hits the right rear door of my car and pushes me into the barrier, my tie rods are damaged. Picture 44
-03.25.55 : It hits the left rear bumper of my vehicle, picture 45
-03.31.53 : He hit the back of the car and made it spin. picture 46
-03.35.27 : deliberately crashes into the back of the car picture 47
-03.35.36 :He deliberately breaks it in front of my vehicle and squeezes it into the barrier. Picture 48
-03.36.50 :He deliberately hits the rear bumper of the car. Picture 49
-03.41.10 :I get in front of him and he hits the rear bumper of the car and drags me until 03.41.14. Picture 50 51
-03.41.32 : It hits the back of my car and drags it, causing the car to lose balance. picture 52
-03.42.51 :It hits the bumper of the car and throws my car into the opposite lane. Picture 53
-03.45.19 :He hits the left door of my car and throws me into the barriers. When I hit the barriers, he damages the rods of the car. picture 54
-03.46.58 :He hits the left rear door of the car and puts me in front of him. He hits the left front door of the car and makes the car lose balance. picture 55
-03.47.19 :Even though I'm stopped, it comes and hits the right front fender of my car. picture 56
-03.49.45 :deliberately hitting the right rear of the car picture 57 58
-03.49.55 :He is trying to throw me into the barrier by hitting the left rear door of my car. Picture 59
-03.50.14 :önüne geçiyorum ve arabama arkadan sürekli çarpıyor şu zamana kadar 03.50.20
picture 60
-03.54.37 :He hits my car on purpose. picture 61
-04.03.47 :I get in front of him and he deliberately hits me from behind and upsets the balance of the car. He hits the left rear door of the car and takes me in front of him. He hits me from the left front door, dragging me and I lose the balance of the car. picture 62 63 64 65
-04.05.38 :When I passed in front of him he hit the back of my car and he hit the right rear door of the car.
picture 66 67
-04.10.20 :He hits the back of the car and continues to hit me, trying to throw me into the barriers. Picture 68
-04.11.00 :He hits the back of my car and pushes me. After hitting me, he turns my car around. Picture 69
-04.12.41 : He hits the rear bumper of the car and tries to throw me into the barrier and drags me until 04.12.41.
picture 70 71
-04.13.21 :He's trying to hit me from the back of the car and throw me in.
picture 72 73
-04.15.23 :Even though I pressed the brakes, I still can't save it and it hits the right front door of my car.
picture 74
-04.16.44 :He hits me from the left front door of the car and throws me into the barrier. Picture 75

Hello, I hope you have a good forum. Normally I don't want to deal with these people, but I was the one chasing and Samet was using a lot of force during the chase, especially at 03.20.43. There are many timings like this, I chased for 1 hour and could not catch it due to the forces thrown at my vehicle, I lost the chase and it does not send any message to the broken forces, it does not send any messages, it is just making fun of me and I saw that it sent messages to a few parts, I ask for your analysis.

Evidence
Replay / Screenshot Link(s):
Screenshot:
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MPR:https://www.mediafire.com/file/i0lx69q684rfyu6/samet_ramming.rar/file

RE: sustained application of force in a chase - BP - 2024-03-20 06:18

Hello,

Nice effort but I have to question whether those (approximate) 50 timestamps and 75 screenshots are proportional to the alleged offences. In its current state, the admin who would deal with this report (if any choose to do it at all) would be spending many hours of their time on this.

I am wondering if there is something you can do to trim this down.
- I'm not sure how useful screenshots of the replay are if you have already uploaded replay and stated timestamps. I view this as doubling up on the evidence unnecessarily
- Are all of these approx. 50 timestamps relevant? Maybe you would like to show the most relevant or egregious examples?

Honestly speaking, it may be a few weeks or a month before someone is able to finish this report in its current state. Please let me know if you are going to amend.

Thanks

RE: sustained application of force in a chase - AlpBura06 - 2024-03-20 13:20

Let me summarize, Samet's deliberate dragging of my car in front of him drags me all the way to the lights, it's not just for one place, it's everywhere in timing so I'll try to reduce it but he does these movements everywhere, even where he pushes me into the barriers. How can I do it?
Most places do it on purpose anyway, normally I don't bother this much.
How can I reduce these timings and screenshots? I would appreciate it if you could help me because these movements are everywhere.

RE: sustained application of force in a chase - Samet - 2024-03-20 13:35

Hello I would like to reply to this,

You said most of the time that I am ramming you, and I would like to point out that almost most of the force I use are tactical attacks meant to set you back. I have a heavy car and you have a light car, I use this to my tactics in not getting busted.

You say you are trying to slow me down by getting in front of me, you are doing your duty as a police officer, this is very normal. However as a suspect, I try to avoid unnecessary use of force and escape with minimal harm to either of us but that means I can also use force to push,

But you insistently claim that I made RAM.

Furthermore I have additional timestamps I want to add for the admin who sees this:

3.15.20: suskun rams me here

3.20.23: I'm running away from you so you don't hit me at my door

3.50.52: My own police license was suspended for 30 days for this exact reason, and he does it as well!

4.02.40: Maybe this is my fault, maybe it's his, I don't know, I leave the choice up to you.

4.07.00: Here is a massively bad hit

4.11.52: My own police license was suspended for 30 days for this reason x2

)))))))))))))))))))))These timestamps belong to AlpBura06's mprs)))))))))))))))))))))))))

And lastly I have extra information and evidence against AlpBura,
The timestamps below are in the replay at this link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/xowotqc60qckqiz/alp+bura+ki%5ETşisel+bilgi.mpr/file

6.10.50: Lost chase AlpBura06.

6.11.38: He's trying to make me angry by provoking me unneccesarily.

6.16.00 (Keep watching until 6.25.10, he shares my information.): There are very serious things going on here, my personal information that I don't want to share is shared in the general chat .(he is doing this using illegal app, I don't have any connection with Eren.) Please admins consider this report itself is again trying to provoke, I want to stay neutral and enjoy TC. Thank you for reading

Status: Investigation Process. Updated by: Ice. - Ice - 2024-03-20 18:58

This report is being reviewed
Please be patient, we will reply shortly.


RE: sustained application of force in a chase - AlpBura06 - 2024-03-20 19:16

I took BP's suggestion and filtered out the unimportant ones from the minutes. Just looking at these minutes will be enough: 03:06.40 03.09.25 03.10.54 03.12.08 03.15.18 03.15.32 03.16.23 03.17.49 03.18.48 03.19.48 03.20.29 03.25.15 03.25.55 03.31.53 03.35.27 03.35.36 03.41.10 03.42.51 03.46.58 03.47.19 03.49.45 03.50.14 03.54.37 04.03.47 04.05.38 04.10.20 04.11.00 04.13.21 04.15.23 04.16.44

RE: sustained application of force in a chase - Ice - 2024-03-20 20:02

Hello,

so first things first, let's get the elephant in the room out of the way - that was mostly a complete waste of my precious time. Such a petty report I've not had the "pleasure" to deal with in all my active TC life.

From the get go during the first few timestamps I noticed this will be one of those "I'll make sure to find every single contact during the chase because I dislike this person" kind of reports.

To you, AlpBura06 - Not every single contact to your vehicle, namely when you are moving slowly and you are in a paperweight vehicle chasing a big, clunky SUV, when you move in front of such a vehicle you can expect to be hit in the back at low speeds. Second thing is, when he hits your bumper(s) at low speed to make you spin that is a perfectly valid strategy to use and whenever you move in front of such a vehicle you are exposing yourself to such maneuvers. Third, when you move in to overtake such a vehicle in a tight spot, expect the vehicle to try to cut you off (a few instances where you went to overtake against the fence and Samet cut you off). Those strategies are perfectly valid for the suspect and it is up to you to pick your "fights" with such a vehicle correctly and most importantly - smartly.

That being said, there are a few instances where Samet goes in deliberately to ram. Therefore, since this is not his first time ramming, he will be receiving a 7 day ban for his actions.

You, AlpBura06, however, will receive a warning for using excessive force on Samet's vehicle on a few occasions during the chase. Take this warning to learn from your mistakes and correct them.
Action has been taken as described
Thank you for your report, it has now been moved to the archives.