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[Tomiy]

Hello,
I need little help,I want to upgrade my pc but I don't know what.Problem is slow and blocking in 70% of games(GTA4,Spintiers,FIFA14,Rust...)

Here is "setup":

Processor: Intel® Pentium® Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM-Kingston hyper x1 2gb-DDR3(waiting for 2gb more)
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 512MB
HDD:500GB
32-bit
PCU-Power supply-230V-400W
OS:Windows 7

[[TC] TigR]

Oh my. First of all we need to know a budget on this. If you could give that we could start making some lists. Also we need to know what PCU(power supply) is as you might need to upgrade it to fit the new components

[Tomiy]

Ohh sure,budget I was think about 250$-210€.
PCU-Power supply-230V-400W.

[[TC] TigR]

Oh wow. Umh, i think i'm gonna pass on this one. The budget is a bit small in my opinion if you want to upgrade your current computer to run GTA4 with playable fps. If you want that you would need a new CPU, and a new graphics card at least. And then you might need to upgrade your motherboard so it would all 'fit' together. And possible new PCU as well to give the new components enough power.. But maybe someone else want to try, who knows. Good luck anyway

[Tomiy]

Give me a price,maybe I can accept that
All option are open

[[TC]►Carl◄]

I would say around 300-400 euros can get you the minimum requirements for the games you listed.

[[TC]►Petsu◄]

If you can find used mobo, cpu and gpu you can get parts well enough to run your games.. not on highest ofc PCU might be enough or might not, who knows

[GT4tube]

Tomiy GTA 4 i was old pc can run. video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBjsx44FUE

and u want play Rust?. Must new pc like about +450€. (without SSD) [what said Nismo's right.]

Rust legacy i can play and Rust new version still can play but low settings.
*(Rust legacy be 5gb ram required, but new version be 8-gb ram required.)

my pc's:

Processor: Intel i5 2500k 3.3ghz
Memory: 8gb RAM-1600mhz DDR3
Card name: NVIDIA GTX650Ti 1gb
SSD: Vertex 4 128gb
SSHD: Seagate Thin 500gb
HDD: Seagate 1TB nub
PCU-Power supply: 650W
OS:Windows 7 64bit.

that my pc used about 520€ now. (Was Brand new 800€ bought in 2011) lol.

I just ask

[Tomiy]

(2014-12-26 02:45)Nismo Wrote:  I would say around 300-400 euros can get you the minimum requirements for the games you listed.

Acceptable price.

(2014-12-26 03:44)petsu Wrote:  If you can find used mobo, cpu and gpu you can get parts well enough to run your games.. not on highest ofc PCU might be enough or might not, who knows

Hmmm,I dont know if I will go on new or used parts.I need to know what I need "upgrade".

(2014-12-26 08:01)GT4tube Wrote:  Tomiy GTA 4 i was old pc can run. video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBjsx44FUE

and u want play Rust?. Must new pc like about +450€. (without SSD) [what said Nismo's right.]

Rust legacy i can play and Rust new version still can play but low settings.
*(Rust legacy be 5gb ram required, but new version be 8-gb ram required.)

my pc's:

Processor: Intel i5 2500k 3.3ghz
Memory: 8gb RAM-1600mhz DDR3
Card name: NVIDIA GTX650Ti 1gb
SSD: Vertex 4 128gb
SSHD: Seagate Thin 500gb
HDD: Seagate 1TB nub
PCU-Power supply: 650W
OS:Windows 7 64bit.

that my pc used about 520€ now. (was new 800€ when buy in 2011-2013) lol.

I just ask

I play all games on HIGH,I don't play games if I can't play on HIGH. Its little bit blocking GTA4 on HIGH(for me that is little blocking,for someone is big).Let's kick out Rust,its just multiplayer game I need some good setup that I can run maybe GTA4 without lag and GTA5 when they come out.
Btw. nice pc setup
I saw something for that SSD,SSHD,HDD. SSD is faster then HDD and SSHD?

[B!ll]

Best way how well spend money on updating on your current build is collect more money for new build. Unfortunately your current CPU and motherboard is old for sensible update.

How wrote Petsu. Try search "used CPU" for your socket 775. It would be good to know what motherboard you have now for choice what processor will fit best. U can check it with this CPU-ID

Anyway you can try overclock your CPU if your motherboard allows.

• Link
• Link
  

I thought little bit how made cheap build but iam lost in this "old" components. Anyway i tried look around for something about 210€. For start can be this good way:

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

[Tomiy]

(2014-12-26 10:50)B!ll Wrote:  Best way how well spend money on updating on your current build is collect more money for new build. Unfortunately your current CPU and motherboard is old for sensible update.

How wrote Petsu. Try search "used CPU" for your socket 775. It would be good to know what motherboard you have now for choice what processor will fit best. U can check it with this CPU-ID

Anyway you can try overclock your CPU if your motherboard allows.

• Link
• Link
  

I thought little bit how made cheap build but iam lost in this "old" components. Anyway i tried look around for something about 210€. For start can be this good way:

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

Here is motherboard:
Manufacturer-ASUSTek Computer INC.
Model-P5KPL-AM

Then I need to buy motherboard and all from this replace on that new,change CPU,put other RAM if I understand.

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Ang graphic card to

[Tomiy]

Ok,I find all what you Bill send,RAM,CPU,Motherboard...Now I need Graphic card and power supply.

[GT4tube]

(2014-12-26 10:47)Tomiy Wrote:  I saw something for that SSD,SSHD,HDD. SSD is faster then HDD and SSHD?

Ye,
SSD > SSHD > HDD.

Need take two SSD+SSHD Great faster performance! +HDD maybe just for backup, video files etc.

SSD for OS
SSHD for games/other
HDD for backup/files/movie etc

That like my opinion best xd

(2014-12-26 10:50)B!ll Wrote:  

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

why 1866mhz? http://ark.intel.com/products/83428/Inte...e-3_50-GHz

Pentium G3460 has 1333/1600mhz limit. Take 1600mhz good enough low price easy bro.

no Gigabyte plz! take ASUS op. I'm sure Pentium G3460 will no run when come out GTA V PC!

My father's PC has Pentium G2120 can't run play Far Cry 4! Tomiy said want play when come out GTA V. lol...

[B!ll]

Nice you have luck in this motherboard. You are allowed to overlocking FSB and what is best new, motherboard is ready for 45nm CPUs and quad core CPU. Anyway I not understand how can your PC run with DDR3 RAM if it support only DDR2.

• All supported CPU for your motherboard
• This is maybe best choice
• Update your RAM to 4GB or if you have 64bit windows use 8GB
• Anyway you will need update your BIOS at 0403 version if you have older version.
  

First offer from google Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650

(2014-12-26 12:03)GT4tube Wrote:  why 1866mhz?

Pentium G3460 has 1333/1600mhz limit. Take 1600mhz good enough low price easy bro.

I mean for future CPU change. anyway now it is pointless to buy this. It is true.

[GT4tube]

Q9650 too high TDP! lol, my CPU better than Q9650 is used now about 135€ ( 170$ ).

Better take Full pack new pc can cheap!

*Tomiy say what u can buy pc for limit money?

Well lets me see new parts for pc cheap:

• Asus Z97-P = 99€
• Intel Core i5 4460 3,2ghz = 167€
• HyperX DDR3 8GB 1600MHz CL10 FURY = 70€
• GeForce GTX 660 Asus 2GB DCUII = 169€
• Cooler Master B600 V2 600W = 52€ (dont know if good PSU but 600w is enough.)
  
  Total price: 557€ YOu can any games enjoy!

[B!ll]

If you have time here is link where you can search some inspiration.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/builds/#qq=1

[Tomiy]

(2014-12-26 12:30)GT4tube Wrote:  Q9650 too high TDP! lol, my CPU better than Q9650 is used now about 135€ ( 170$ ).

Better take Full pack new pc can cheap!

*Tomiy say what u can buy pc for limit money?

Well lets me see new parts for pc cheap:

• Asus Z97-P = 99€
• Intel Core i5 4460 3,2ghz = 167€
• HyperX DDR3 8GB 1600MHz CL10 FURY = 70€
• GeForce GTX 660 Asus 2GB DCUII = 169€
• Cooler Master B600 V2 600W = 52€ (dont know if good PSU but 600w is enough.)
  
  Total price: 557€ YOu can any games enjoy!

Total: €601.74 in PCPartPicker

(2014-12-26 10:50)B!ll Wrote:  I thought little bit how made cheap build but iam lost in this "old" components. Anyway i tried look around for something about 210€. For start can be this good way:

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

This is less expensive. But what I can play with that ??

[Weelob]

Save your money for now and purchase something when you can afford some newer hardware. Rather go with a new low-budget AMD build than upgrading your current parts.

Here is a 'cheap' upgrade imo:

AMD AM3+ FX-8320, 8-core, 125W
Crucial DDR3 BallistiX 1600Mhz 8GB KIT (2x4GB)
ASUS AM3+ M5A97 R2.0
Sapphire Radeon R9 280
XFX ProSeries Core Edition 550W PSU

4.127DKK / 554eur

[[TC]►Petsu◄]

Yes AMD is super cheap power, i would prefer AMD if you are low on budget but want power Only thing that for higher end AMDs you really want to get new cooler, they are way too hot with originals.. If i remember right starting from fx-6300 and better its preferred to get new cooler. With 30 euros you can get Thermalright True Spirit 120 which should be enough i guess..

[B!ll]

(2014-12-26 14:07)Tomiy Wrote:  

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(2014-12-26 10:50)B!ll Wrote:  I thought little bit how made cheap build but iam lost in this "old" components. Anyway i tried look around for something about 210€. For start can be this good way:

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

This is less expensive. But what I can play with that ??

To be honest I have no idea. I don't know the capabilities of this processor. I chose it in fast look because of the cost. I believe to GT4 if he say its not good. He has experience with this CPU type.

I apologize for the erroneous information.

(2014-12-26 14:24)Weelob Wrote:  AMD AM3+ FX-8320, 8-core, 125W
Crucial DDR3 BallistiX 1600Mhz 8GB KIT (2x4GB)
ASUS AM3+ M5A97 R2.0
Sapphire Radeon R9 280
XFX ProSeries Core Edition 550W PSU

4.127DKK / 554eur

This is a very interesting build. Price/Power is great. It would not be bad to pay more for AMD FX-8350 (€153.90) and cooler Zalman CNPS7X LED CPU Cooler (€29.38)

Original AMD coolers are not good in temperature decrease.

(2014-12-26 10:50)B!ll Wrote:  

• Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z97P-D3
• CPU: Intel Pentium G3460
• RAM: ADATA 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL10 XPG Series 1.0
• And combinate with your case and power supply
  

Forget this combination.