My recent cop license revocation

[cargame.nl]

Whats this? Where is the report?



Or this some decision made in some backstage room between two people? Ridiculous if thats true.

Administrator Message by: Dan

Thread renamed to something more identifiable.

[[TC]►BP◄]

Hi Dave

Since you're not reporting anyone I'll just move this to General Admin Tasks.

Apparently the following report replay shows you breaking cop rules: http://forum.city-driving.co.uk/showthre...?tid=17429

It should probably be mentioned that you were !reported twice yesterday (that's 14/05/2015 to avoid any timezone related confusion) by two separate users within a matter of seconds (seemingly about cop-related things).

On the 10th of May you were warned about speeding as cop.

Hopefully Daniel will reply here soon.

[cargame.nl]

No idea what you are talking about... I helped him by making a report by uploading a replay from my own drive and own space. You now say this is a problem? What the?

I do work for nothing?

You realize that report is about someone called ww insane? It's getting insane here

(2015-05-15 22:36)BP Wrote:  It should probably be mentioned that you were !reported twice yesterday (that's 14/05/2015 to avoid any timezone related confusion) by two separate users within a matter of seconds (seemingly about cop-related things).

where.. cause I can't find.

You are aware that a lot of people watch me anyway.. because of the name do you? (Quite sick actually but OK).

Thanks for replying BP

[[TC]►BP◄]

I never said he actually reported you, but the replay must have shown you doing something wrong (incidentally) which Dan saw and acted upon.

I'll direct Dan to this thread.

[cargame.nl]

Right, Ok, thanks.

[Dan]

Hello

BP is correct in that I spotted you breaking road laws as a cop through Petsu's replay. While I appreciate you using your own hosting and storage for supplying the replay, we can use the replay to gain an insight to activity within the server while no admins were present. The fact that you were reported via the TC Member Required thread a little time around this replay, suggests that you may have been doing this in the supplied replay. Therefore, I took the initiative to watch your driving and I did indeed see you breaking road laws.

The following time stamps show you breaking road laws, while not in chase:

• 4:32 - wrong siding
• 5:25 through to 6:20 - speeding (except those where you slowed down to take the corners)
• 8:00 - taking the roundabout the wrong way (you didn't actually join the chase until 18 seconds later)
  
  Code:
  

  2015-05-14 23:38:40 UTC    One (Blackwood)    *HOST*    [COP] Dave joined on !    лво'sнвлв♪'
2015-05-14 23:38:40 UTC    One (Blackwood)    cargame.nl    [COP] Dave : !join
• 16:45 - speeding
• 16:50 - wrong siding
  

I believe that I have gathered sufficient evidence as to you breaking road laws as a cop, hence why I removed your cop license.

[cargame.nl]

4min23.. I didnt realized I was behind a cop because I didn't had names above the cars.. Simply forgot.. You can see on my whole behavior that I was waiting until the FZ5 came by.. Catched up.. Then ánd Ganjaman and Dizzle both reversed.. After the reverse the siren went on and I realized what was going on.

5.20 catching up with Vito yeah.. Bit too far away though to do that.. I agree.

8.00 what? I needed to catch up with Dylan and type in the command and the same time.. what do you all expect????

The rest ppff.. Not even worth talking about.. But.. I now learned one thing, you need to be very selfish on these servers to be active. Excellent! At least I have an explanation of admin behavior. o/

[Dino]

Instead of that attitude now

cargame.nl Wrote:I now learned one thing, you need to be very selfish on these servers to be active. Excellent! At least I have an explanation of admin behavior. o/

why don't you think about your own one?

I tried to contact you in a friendly way several times to make you aware of the fact that you are doing something wrong (speeding, NOT moving for chases etc.)
Instead you preferred ignoring me.
I was just trying to help you, knowing that you are not an experienced cop here and I wanted to tell you what you did wrong. You didn't care at all.

If this results in a forum warning/ban for posting in a thread where I probably must not post, then I will live with that - just wanted to post this that you can maybe think about that you were given several opportunities to change your copping but you didn't.

btw Pete, knowing that you two are friends I preferred to !TC you that you probably should talk to him, all you did was ignoring me and leaving the server a minute afterwards. If you didn't see it, nvm, but I guess you did since u were active in the chat at that point and I was writing at least lines via !TC

[Dan]

(2015-05-16 18:17)cargame.nl Wrote:  4min23.. I didnt realized I was behind a cop because I didn't had names above the cars.. Simply forgot.. You can see on my whole behavior that I was waiting until the FZ5 came by.. Catched up.. Then ánd Ganjaman and Dizzle both reversed.. After the reverse the siren went on and I realized what was going on.

5.20 catching up with Vito yeah.. Bit too far away though to do that.. I agree.

8.00 what? I needed to catch up with Dylan and type in the command and the same time.. what do you all expect????

I'm not going to go through each individual time stamp and reply, since there's not really any way they can be justified. You broke the road laws, end of story. You hadn't actually joined any chase, but you still decided to go wrong way around the roundabout. You missed 2 back up calls, the third one you joined:

First attempt

Code:

2015-05-14 23:38:28 UTC    One (Blackwood)    cargame.nl    [COP] Dave : !join
2015-05-14 23:38:28 UTC    One (Blackwood)    *HOST*    RDP•petsu[COP] joined on !    лво'sнвлв♪'
2015-05-14 23:38:28 UTC    One (Blackwood)    Verke    RDP•petsu[COP] : !join
2015-05-14 23:38:26 UTC    One (Blackwood)    3.rman    ＤＹＬＡＮ [COP] : !backup

Second attempt

Code:

2015-05-14 23:38:35 UTC    One (Blackwood)    cargame.nl    [COP] Dave : !join
2015-05-14 23:38:35 UTC    One (Blackwood)    *HOST*    [COP]Dizzle joined on !    лво'sнвлв♪'
2015-05-14 23:38:35 UTC    One (Blackwood)    klbbadd2002    [COP]Dizzle : !join
2015-05-14 23:38:34 UTC    One (Blackwood)    3.rman    ＤＹＬＡＮ [COP] : !backup

And then the third one...

Code:

2015-05-14 23:38:40 UTC    One (Blackwood)    *HOST*    [COP] Dave joined on !    лво'sнвлв♪'
2015-05-14 23:38:40 UTC    One (Blackwood)    cargame.nl    [COP] Dave : !join
2015-05-14 23:38:39 UTC    One (Blackwood)    3.rman    ＤＹＬＡＮ [COP] : !backup

It was actually before you joined any chase, that you wrong sided the roundabout, hence why I included this time stamp as you breaking road laws without being in chase.

(2015-05-16 18:17)cargame.nl Wrote:  The rest ppff.. Not even worth talking about.. But.. I now learned one thing, you need to be very selfish on these servers to be active. Excellent! At least I have an explanation of admin behavior. o/

Well, actually, they are worth talking about, since they are you breaking road laws - that's what this thread is all about, is it not? I can't come to terms with what you're trying to imply in the last part of your sentence, so feel free to expand on that (providing it's actually something constructive).

[cargame.nl]

(2015-05-16 18:23)Dino Wrote:  I was just trying to help you, knowing that you are not an experienced cop here and I wanted to tell you what you did wrong. You didn't care at all.

Right.. So, with how many hours you are actually rated as experienced?

[Dino]

(2015-05-19 10:16)cargame.nl Wrote:  

(2015-05-16 18:23)Dino Wrote:  I was just trying to help you, knowing that you are not an experienced cop here and I wanted to tell you what you did wrong. You didn't care at all.

Right.. So, with how many hours you are actually rated as experienced?

Depends, but you with your 157 hours of copping obviously didn't realize yet that u have to move for chases and may not speed.
Beside that, like half of your copping hours you spent with making a speedtrap.

[SO•Sebas]

I thought i'd pitch in since I was the one reporting you on the 14th.

Here's a massive 3h long replay with you in it:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3341...1X_30R.mpr

You can find in the replay:
- Speeding as a cop
- Massive Tailgating
- Drifting, U-turns, questionable driving antics.

Feel free to analyse it, it's there for everyone to see.

Thanks.

[cargame.nl]

(2015-05-19 13:49)Dino Wrote:  Beside that, like half of your copping hours you spent with making a speedtrap.

No proof, you joined three years later.

Your opinion is very biased and narrow minded, thats also the reason why I ignore you. I only communicate with people which have good arguments and/or easy minded. Mostly they are a bit older.

(2015-05-19 15:46)Sebas Wrote:  Feel free to analyse it, it's there for everyone to see.

No thanks, I can do better things with my time. Maybe I setup some speedtraps.. We will see.

[Dan]

(2015-05-19 18:14)cargame.nl Wrote:  No thanks, I can do better things with my time. Maybe I setup some speedtraps.. We will see.

And here is where the problem lies, Dave, you've come here to discuss the fact that your cop licence has been revoked, yet you're not willing to accept others' critique about you and how they've actually tried helping you as a cop.

I'm going to lock this thread now, since we're not really going to get to a conclusion. You've got your licence back so there are (hopefully) no more problems.