Unban - Juntu (Unban Request Granted by Leon)

[[TC]►Leon◄]

Finally back from Denmark! Sorry for the wait.

(2015-04-26 19:39)Juntu Wrote:  

Juntu Wrote:The user you talk of was Shikari, who asked: "why has the lay been removed? D:" To which i said: "because Leon and Howlin had a problem, Shikari"

(2015-04-26 16:03)Leon Wrote:  This is/was one of this issues when it happened. Putting it the way you put it not only puts me in a very bad light, but also makes the ordeal look much worse than it was. Had you instead chosen to say - in a non condescending manner - what my actual issue was:

So, you rather that I show you in a good light and thus not tell the truth as i saw it happen right before my eyes? Sounds a little personal.

Not at all, the truth would have sufficed. Saying that I "had a problem" sounds more negative than it needs to be and easily leads to unnecessary speculation.

Juntu Wrote:You and Howlin had a problem/issue with Bez doing changes to the layout that you and Howlin had'nt heard of (Because you refuse to use teamspeak) - which caused Bez, Ras and myself to try and tell you about what had been talked upon --> You guys refused to understand that and i quote "So we dont get a say in this?", showing the problem was not the layout, the problem was your attitude towards Bez and what he was doing.

Juntu, are you even reading my replies? All but one statement above have been answered in a previous reply. As for the unaddressed

Quote:"So we dont get a say in this?"

- goes, I didn't say that and, as previously stated, I have no control over other peoples words or actions. Also, the quote is incorrect. It was:

Howlin Wrote:So nobody else gets a say?

Juntu Wrote:

Leon Wrote:As previously stated, my problem was that instead of telling him what the issue was, you, in a clearly negative tone, said it was because I had a problem. The issue was much more complex than that.

I presented the issue with the same attitude you and Howlin were treating everyone else in the chat that had a clue of what was happening. Not pointing fingers, pointing out attitude not suited for an admin. I feel sorry to include Howlin into all this, since he atleast didnt call me a liar.

As to "The issue was much more complex than that". I agree, the issue was way more complex than just layouts, its you getting mad over something your own doing could've prevented. Join TS. Listen.

I have to say that I'm failing to see where I was mistreating "everyone in the chat"

To address the recurring theme of TS and my lack of using it: I very rarely use TS as it simply causes me much more grief than anything else. I always have issues with echoing, interference, dropouts and microphone failure. On top of that, TS isn't the official tube wherein all information is channeled to the team members. If an important point is made in TS, it will be mentioned in the members area.

Juntu Wrote:

Leon Wrote:To be blunt: It didn't. It may be a public chat, but I wasn't talking to you.

To be blunt back: You have difficulties understanding the word public. If you say something publicly you cant expect us not to read it and act accordingly as I, Ras and many others did. Blaming someone for doing something that he was doing for greater good - In this case creating a layout, atleast i will defend said person from false accusations and bad attitude that someone shows for no real reason.

False accusations? Where's that coming from? The rest of this paragraph I've answered in an earlier reply.

Juntu Wrote:

Leon Wrote:You have multiple warnings for it and I simply refuse to believe that you thought I wouldn't be offended by what you said. Especially considering your record.

Yes, I have a record and it is not pretty. But for someone who can't really get a mark on their record anymore, you show even worse attitude at times.
I might be a d*** but atleast I dont show bad attitude without a proper reason.

However, again, I am sorry if you felt offended.

I can still get marks, Juntu. It's just that their consequences are a bit more serious for me than you.