Traffic Lights - often ignored

[Brixton]

First: Well done the traffic lights. I realy like this feature.

But Yesterday i notice, that a lot of users ignore the lights at all. Not only the one at the crossroads. The ones at the roadworks too. And this causing accidents, because often Roadworks are narrow the streets to one lane.

Is it possible to integrate a red light camera trap? Like the speed traps, which can cops use.
A COP can stay near to a light (can be hidden behind a wall, maybe 20 or 30 m) and install a red light trap. Every user who drive threw a red light get autoaticly a fine. If it is possible diffrent fines for the lenght of beeing red.
Example: <1 sec. red--> 80 €
>1 sec red --> 300 €

Maybe it can be combinated with the speed trap. In germany (and i think in most other contries too) the cameras often combine speed and red light.

I think possibilty to get automaticly fined will bring more attention to traffic lights.

[[6S] Jacob]

No, no, no... if there is red light runner, then it is work for COPs

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[Barney [CA]]

Speedtraps are already annoying and useless enough. Go be a COP and chase people, not prevent chases and burn money for nothing. If u wanna drive "realistic", do it in reallife. Most people enjoy speeding, chases, breaking roadlaws as you can not do that in reallife.

If you want to have the server too realistic, start getting rid of all the people that can not drive, cause crashes or are ignorant - by implement driving lessons and a driving licence before people are allowed to drive on the server.

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€: and to those claiming that this is a simulation of reallife... reallife is bigger. On LFS servers you can barely avoid the traps simply because of the few roads existing. In a chase where u already loose thousands by speeding and the fine, you simply can not avoid the traps fining you on top.

[[TC] Nathan]

This is in discussion already.

[[TC]►Carl◄]

I love the traffic light systems but I don't like traps, mainly because it takes away the point of having cops. Since they were introduced, I like to park near them and fine people who don't stop.

As for the roadworks, it's only a problem because people are most likely going too fast through them.

[Barney [CA]]

Discuss it in public? Here maybe?

[Brixton]

(2016-08-22 09:27)Bee Wrote:  Speedtraps are already annoying and useless enough. Go be a COP and chase people, not prevent chases and burn money for nothing. If u wanna drive "realistic", do it in reallife. Most people enjoy speeding, chases, breaking roadlaws as you can not do that in reallife.

If you want to have the server too realistic, start getting rid of all the people that can not drive, cause crashes or are ignorant - by implement driving lessons and a driving licence before people are allowed to drive on the server.

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€: and to those claiming that this is a simulation of reallife... reallife is bigger. On LFS servers you can barely avoid the traps simply because of the few roads existing. In a chase where u already loose thousands by speeding and the fine, you simply can not avoid the traps fining you on top.

But it is a cruise server. For racing everybody is free to go on a racing server. I already have a driving licence, drive around 30.000 km a year with a not slow car. I still enjoy crusing with some rules on LFS. If you want speeding, you are free to buy a radar to locate the traps. Speeding and racing should not be the main idea behind a cruise server.

And the point with the chase: You alread lose many money in a chase. 3 days ago on WE I lose around 2000 € + fine in cause of a chase. But maybe it is possible that traps ignore users in chase? Or do they already? Whats with a COP who get in a speed trap while chasing someone?

@Nathan: Thanks for the information. Hope you guys find a good solution.

[Barney [CA]]

(2016-08-22 09:57)Brixton Wrote:  

(2016-08-22 09:27)Bee Wrote:  Speedtraps are already annoying and useless enough. Go be a COP and chase people, not prevent chases and burn money for nothing. If u wanna drive "realistic", do it in reallife. Most people enjoy speeding, chases, breaking roadlaws as you can not do that in reallife.

If you want to have the server too realistic, start getting rid of all the people that can not drive, cause crashes or are ignorant - by implement driving lessons and a driving licence before people are allowed to drive on the server.

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€: and to those claiming that this is a simulation of reallife... reallife is bigger. On LFS servers you can barely avoid the traps simply because of the few roads existing. In a chase where u already loose thousands by speeding and the fine, you simply can not avoid the traps fining you on top.

But it is a cruise server. For racing everybody is free to go on a racing server. I already have a driving licence, drive around 30.000 km a year with a not slow car. I still enjoy crusing with some rules on LFS. If you want speeding, you are free to buy a radar to locate the traps. Speeding and racing should not be the main idea behind a cruise server.

And the point with the chase: You alread lose many money in a chase. 3 days ago on WE I lose around 2000 € + fine in cause of a chase. But maybe it is possible that traps ignore users in chase? Or do they already? Whats with a COP who get in a speed trap while chasing someone?

@Nathan: Thanks for the information. Hope you guys find a good solution.

Thx for the info, i alrdy have a radarwarner. Its not practical for 1. You dont want to slow down in chases and let the cops catch up, 2. you often simply can not slow down in time. Cops dont even loose money for speeding(but earn when at limit, plus the fines), of course they dont get fined by traps. The suspect provides fun to at least 3 cops or even way more, while loosing thousands, cops make money while having fun.

Btw its often stated that TC is a "Cops 'n Robbers" server, hence the name TC, TRAFFIC COPS. Feel free to "cruise" on RC = reality cruise or wkd.

[[TC]►BP◄]

[TC] CityDriving is both cruise and cops & robbers.

Anyway, I'm not sure how I actually feel about auto fines for traffic lights...

I suggest something like "Running a red light (50€ / 100€ / 150€)" (which sort of incorporates both careless and dangerous driving fines). For now we just use careless or dangerous depending on the situation.

In any case, as it stands, crashes due to this can be enforced via 'causing a crash' fine, which is minimum 150 anyway AFAIK.

[Borja]

If people ignore speedtraps , and can cause accidents, why now people should respect redtraps? Why do you earn by setting this trap? Nothing.


What he need is a update on rules , cause someone cross the red light to the right , and in some country its allowed , and in some others no.

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[[6S] Jacob]

don´t try to make it realistic as much as you can.. sure it is a cruise server, but main point of this server are COPs and chases. If you put speedtraps everywhere, you can also cancel COP work. This is not only about realistic driving in your line and stopping on red lights, this is about fun so make the fun! I hope TC will not do anything about this, because this server would lose the gist with this "improvement", seriously.

[Ph4nToM]

Let the cop manually chase people...if we start putting automatic fines for everything it's gonna suck. Speedtraps are already useless enough imo.

[Jimmy]

I dont want to meet them in real life the red lights runners

[[TC] Stephen]

Some cops are lazy enough as it is, don't make them even more lazy with these fines.

[KooKoo]

Just make a specific fine for cutting the light and make it expensive. Let us see how many people will cut the light. Fines are too cheap so for the rich its very easy to cut the light without caring about a 30e fine when you have 100k +.

[Jimmy]

In sweden it is 1500 and revoked license bye bye

[Razz]

As Nismo said, stick near the traffic lights and you can easily catch anyone going through red lights.

Though I guess it would be a good idea if a cop near by can be informed if someone has gone through a red light. (If that makes sense :/)

[[TC]►Carl◄]

(2016-08-22 13:32)Razz Wrote:  As Nismo said, stick near the traffic lights and you can easily catch anyone going through red lights.

Though I guess it would be a good idea if a cop near by can be informed if someone has gone through a red light. (If that makes sense :/)

Yes, to work in a similar way to !laser so we can actually be sure it was red and to also provide proof.

Just like a little message such as "username ran a red light @ location" and send it to the COP within x amount of meters.

[kudlateli]

Thats a good idea

[[TC-R] Adam]

(2016-08-22 13:43)Nismo Wrote:  Just like a little message such as "username ran a red light @ location" and send it to the COP within x amount of meters.

I like this idea!

I also don't really like roadworks, I would love them in slower bits (Maybe Westhill Tunnels) but in fast bits, as Nismo said, they just cause mayhem...