Dealer update

[◄Chuck►]

I've been working on the upcoming dealer-feature.
If you haven't heard of it before, the dealer feature will allow anybody to run a car trading business.

My question is: How many people are actually interested in becoming a dealer ? You need to have quite a bit of available money to invest to found a business though.

[[TC] Kyle]

I'd be interested, I just need to make some more money first

[[TC] Charlie]

I'd be interested

[Alex.]

I would be interested

[[6S] Angel]

I would be interested.

[Riho]

I would not be interested.

[Adorable]

Is the dealer feature going to replace the !sendcar <vin> <username> command? or is it just an extension made so that you can publish cars in the market? this implementation sounds useless since trading can still be do'able with the !sendcar as well as considering that you will have to:

Chuck Wrote:have quite a bit of available money to invest

Few more things I think should be done with care;

• Price selection, are you allowing sellers to post their car for sale for the price they like? Or is it automated?
• By allowing sellers to flush cars into the market, there's the risk of allowing a set of players to completely dominate the market. ([all low condition/used] cars sold by only one person) since I read in this thread that you do plan on removing the script that adds cars every once in a while
  

http://forum.city-driving.co.uk/showthre...?tid=27340

Let's see what you'll come up with Chuck

[Ehet]

I'd be interested

[Zoltri]

Yes pls

[Josh]

I’d give it a go, it’s a nice notice to earn more money and add a bit more variety to the game

[SO•Sebas]

I would definitely love that.

[Ph4nToM]

I'd play around with it for sure.

[Ghutra]

There could be a "price range" when the dealer publishes the car, so in between lets say f.e. 2k and 5k the dealer could choose the price based on that range (ofc varies according to the cond the car has and what car the dealer is selling).
The problem I see here would be a oligopoly of dealers (kinda obvious. I mean, we live in a capitalist world, there is a monopoly/oligopoly on whatever sytem you can think of).

Also, how much of a good amount of money will someone need to start selling cars? Or at least to have a reference, hence there will be a time where no money will be earned until the new dealer system lands and establishes well on the server (pretty redundant, ik). Coz f.e. I could have a hard time trying to get into the business, but people with money over 1mil could establish the oligopoly with the ease to buy the cars.

I might give it a try and see how it goes along the way, and probably earn a lot of shekels.

[[TC]►Ras◄]

I haven't been bothered dealing with cars until now because of how it has worked, but with a proper dealer system i may just get into it!

[SO•Huski]

--Warning, big post-- I have also spoilered it for ease of space. Its mainly a ramble but I believe some okay points lie within.

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I'm sorta iffy on it, as said by Guthra above a monopoly could and probably will happen, it'd take maybe at most a month before new people wanting to get into it won't have a singular chance due to those who have 1m+ already dominating the dealer market from sort of every price range you could think of (I suspect)

And what would this also mean for the [TC] Market? Stay, go, revamp? Cause if it stays I cant see many cars (other than the usual cheap ones, UF1 mainly at time of writing there are 87 UF1's on the market ranging from 100% -> 97.3%. With XFG's its 59 from 99.9% -> 91% and for XRG there are 113 from 99.9% 89.9% random statistics why not?) will most probably be bought out within hours of being put on there by the dealers who have dominated the scene of it all.

Another thing I would ask is what happens to cars in your dealership? Do they take a garage slot of your own? Or will your dealer have a dedicated garage to itself that you could upgrade? Then with a dedicated dealer only garage would you be able to transfer cars back to your personal garage and basically switch and swap dependable and use it to hoard desired cars (such as FWDGTRS) or would cars in dealer garages (if implemented as such) have to be on the list and sellable?

Now back to TC market, if it were to stay as I put above the desired cars would be bought out instantly, however the TC market barely has any common cars bought a lot for a few usages. (Excluding: XRG, XFG, UF1) (FZ5's are actually gone 0) so what option would dealers have from that? Since right now TC market leaves a bit to be desired in terms of range, in terms of TBO the XRT has 0 for sale on there with the RB4 having the most out of the class. So would dealers have to buy cars from new then just drive them for a while? Or will they have to look into buying from players on server? Cause I think what would be probable is sniping from the market in this case if it does stay, say an FZ5 comes on, 95% condition, 37500 (example) I reckon a dealer would take that within a day.

Or would the market have to be saturated with the 'fake cars' just so there's SOMETHING there?


Those are only a few questions or thoughts on this proposed system, I'd personally like to read about the changes around implementation first, especially to things like the TC market, but also a few minor concerns (mainly about monopolising within months)

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Also go me, first spoiler I've used.

[◄Chuck►]

To address some of the points above:

-The automated generation script isn't running for a while (and won't again), hence the shortage on the market. Same goes for the de-valuation script (The script that aged cars and made them cheaper).

-Dealers have a dedicated space to store cars, hence it isn't comparable to private deals using private garages.

-Dealers can freely set the prices for all the cars they offer.

How I think that all can work out? Well, we'll let it go by the rules of supply and demand. As you all know, the current supply for used FZ5's is poor but at the same time we have a great demand of such cars. That naturally increases the value of all existing cars. Which means prices *above* the calculated value are possible and likely. Lets say I own a 50% FZ5, worth ~20k. I don't actually need to sell, but since the demand is high, someone (a dealer or other person) could offer me 22k, which is a good deal for me. And now the system begins to work.
I made 2k, maybe a dealer sells it for 23k, he will get 1k and I can buy me a new car as I got enough money for it anyway.

On top of that, there will also be a function for private sellers to offer their car in some sort of classified ads to support private deals.

[Kikou]

look cool to me +1

[◄Chuck►]

The user-to-user offers are now available under http://world.city-driving.co.uk/?page=classifieds

[[TC] Kyle]

Neat. Cheers Chuck

[guxjim]

I would be interested