Unban Request of Lgrhacking (Unban Request Denied by Crille)

[Louis [CA]]

● Your LFS Username: lgrhacking

● Time & Date of Incident: 5th November 2012, 21:30 GMT

● Replay / Screenshot Link: https://lh.rs/uf6uxF5NqfY8
● Replay Timestamps: 00:01:50

● Reasons as to why you feel you deserve an unban:
I accidentally hit the user Krispy Kreme, I believe the definition of ramming would be hitting them intentionally and from my view is not a breach of rule 1.2. Although the rule include negligence and reckless I believe that I was not doing so, I was simply in a chase. The user replied with the word "*REMOVED* and with him not doing so I would of refunded him and apologised but his actions lead me to loose respect in him. I was banned under the reason " You dont have a ramming permission just because you are beeing chased. " Of which I never said, the user Krispy Kreme twisted my words and lead the TC member into believing this and taking the action he did.

[[TC] Crille]

Well reading through the chatlogs it seams you have a twisted view of what a chased user can do:

2012-11-05 21:40:16 UTC Weston Park Beaver08 Krispy Kreme : [TCX] Louis - 2nd time ram me?
2012-11-05 21:40:25 UTC Weston Park lgrhacking [TCX] Louis : Sorry but this is a chase
2012-11-05 21:40:36 UTC Weston Park Beaver08 Krispy Kreme : [TCX] Louis - so a chase means you can ram every barstard on the road?
2012-11-05 21:40:55 UTC Weston Park lgrhacking [TCX] Louis : no its escaping, with people LISTENING to sirens

Thats why I put "You dont have a ramming permission just because you are beeing chased." as a ban reason although you were banned for not apolagizing when hitting Beaver08 on HW1. Since you have a previous for causing an accident and not apolagizing I enforced a ban.

[Louis [CA]]

(2012-11-06 17:54)Crille Wrote:  Well reading through the chatlogs it seams you have a twisted view of what a chased user can do:

2012-11-05 21:40:16 UTC Weston Park Beaver08 Krispy Kreme : [TCX] Louis - 2nd time ram me?
2012-11-05 21:40:25 UTC Weston Park lgrhacking [TCX] Louis : Sorry but this is a chase
2012-11-05 21:40:36 UTC Weston Park Beaver08 Krispy Kreme : [TCX] Louis - so a chase means you can ram every barstard on the road?
2012-11-05 21:40:55 UTC Weston Park lgrhacking [TCX] Louis : no its escaping, with people LISTENING to sirens

Thats why I put "You dont have a ramming permission just because you are beeing chased." as a ban reason although you were banned for not apolagizing when hitting Beaver08 on HW1. Since you have a previous for causing an accident and not apolagizing I enforced a ban.

I did reply sorry on HW1 when I got a chance hence "Sorry but this is a chase" meaning that it is kind of hard to talk to someone in the middle of a chase, but after his actions, his sarcasm and for him starting to dis-respect I at least deserve some kind of deprecation to the ban length.

[[TC] Crille]

(2012-11-06 18:04)LHacking Wrote:  I did reply sorry on HW1 when I got a chance hence "Sorry but this is a chase" meaning that it is kind of hard to talk to someone in the middle of a chase

I don't see how "Sorry but this is a chase" could count as an apolagy towards the user you hit.

(2012-11-06 18:04)LHacking Wrote:  but after his actions, his sarcasm and for him starting to dis-respect I at least deserve some kind of deprecation to the ban length.

So just because you hit the user that insulted you earlier this should be looked at from a diffrent perspective?

[Louis [CA]]

(2012-11-07 00:37)Crille Wrote:  I don't see how "Sorry but this is a chase" could count as an apolagy towards the user you hit.

I never said it was an apology, i had my
hands tied trying to use the Joystick, forget the keyboard.

(2012-11-07 00:37)Crille Wrote:  So just because you hit the user that insulted you earlier this should be looked at from a diffrent perspective?

I have lost all respect for him and he doesn't deserve the honour of me talking to him.

[[TC] Crille]

Well be that as it may you should have said sorry and trusted the admins to deal with the user. Since you also have a previous URS entry for not saying sorry in another accident the ban stays.

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Unban Request Denied