Is Islam a Religion of Peace?
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2017-05-26, 09:10
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RE: Is Islam a Religion of Peace?
(2017-05-26 06:39)Chuck Wrote: You're pretty much missing the point. I'm not against different cultures, I'm against mixing them up against all odds.Mixing our culture is the best way to go forward to a fair globalised earth. There is no reason to not learning from each other. If we mix it, we can stop the "we here, the others there" thinkings. Thats the main problem, not the cultures as themself. You can see it in football. Violence against fans of the other club only in cause they like their club. Try to mix fans of Schalke and Dortmund or Lok Leipzig and Saxony (Chemie) Leipzig. Impossible. But why? In cause of the "culture"...in cause of the Clubs they support? No, only in cause the Fans just to stupid to think about it. So is football a brutal sport only in cause some bored (mostly german!) idiots think they must throw bottles and stones? (2017-05-26 06:39)Chuck Wrote: Well, feel privileged to grow up in a "German" place. Funnily, you are judging me for demanding exactly that for all Germans. But I can ensure you, there are many different places than that. Almost every bigger city has problems with ghettos and so called "No-go-areas". Dortmund (source) , Duisburg (source), Hamburg, Berlin, just to name some. In Hamburg, almost 50% of all children come from a migrant background (source). Berlin has a migrant rate of 30%, which is particularly interesting seeing that Berlin was isolated by the Russians until 1989. So that all happened in less than 28 years.I know many places in germany. For my work I was in Cities with hight rate of immegrants. Like Frankfurt/M., Berlin, Hamburg, Bonn and Munich. Like in every city there are good and bad places. Thats not a problem of immigrants, its a problem of immigration. For example Berlin. West-Berlin wasn´t isolatet. They have a hugh number of guestworkers in the 60th and 70th. The economy need them but nobody have interests to integrate them. But if you leaving your home (and here is a problem with english language, with home I mean "Heimat", there is no proper english word for it, sorry) with your family to work and live on another place, maybe it become your home. And if your only feel like a guest there, then its clear that you search for other people wo feel the same. Voilá: parallel society. The not-Immigration of migrants (Turkish, italien etc.) in the 70th are one of the biggest mistakes in our politic for years. Same in other countries. France have a hugh problem with african migrants. They coming in cause of the colonial politic of france and they are not welcome in france. No perspective in africa, no perspective in france. That causing problems. The solution can not be to say: "They all criminals, take them out." The solution can only be to integrate them. Jürgen Habermas wrote, that a united europe can only work if the Portuguese feel for the swede like he feel for the other portuguese. (Book: Postnational constellation/Die postnationale Konstellation). Well, thats so true. If we can make them feel like european, it can make a better world for all of us. Protectionism never works. There are thousend of examples in history that it dont work. But I will not going over your examples. You say No-Go Areas in some towns only in cause of immigrants. I say there are No-Go Areas in many town not only in cause of immigrants. Try to go at night with a black skin to some townparts in East Germany. I can say that, cause I live in some of these towns. Nazi infected. And maybe Marxloh look like a very dangerous place. So tell me how Tuvia Tenenbom (a german/american jew jornalist) can go there for his book "Allein unter Deutschen"? Yeah I dont feel very good when I was one time alone at night in Berlin/Neukölln. But I feel the same when I go to Dresden/Reick. And there are not much immigrants, I feel bad there in cause of the germans. Stop thinking there is a easy solution for the problems of our time. Nowadays so many populists say "The immigrants causing our problems" or "Its just the islam who make the world bad". There are no easy solutions in a complicated world. |
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