+ Report - [COP]Ludo99 (Report Archived by Sadie)

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Users Involved

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Your LFS Username:tristatron

Their LFS Username(s):Ludo99
Their In-game Nickname(s):[COP]Ludo99

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Incident Information

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Date of Incident:4/3/2020
Time of Incident:

Description of Incident (Include Timestamps):

Replay1:
35:30- He high fines me. When I ask him what his reasoning for the high fine was he said it was because I attempted to block him.

I don't see how such a minor block is valid justification for a high fine. "you should take into account only Severity and Repetition of other violations during the chase." Cops are allowed to block suspects and suspects are permitted to use the same force as cops. "You are permitted to use minor force/physical contact to evade arrest, but no more than the force cops are permitted to use on you."

He refused to talk to me about it on the server and asked me to make a report against him, so here's that report.

Replay2:
I wasn't directly involved in this but it shows him doing more of the same thing.
11:50- He chases snecek and gives him a 125$ dangerous driving fine with his reason being "drifting and ww" Despite him not going ww and not putting anyone in danger.
13:20- He blocks snecek despite the fine being paid.

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Evidence

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Replay / Screenshot Link(s):

Replay1
Replay2
Dangerous driving fine for replay 2
(I don't have a screenshot of the high fine from replay 1 but he confirms he did it in the replay so I assume that's good enough)

[Sadie]

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[Sadie]

Hello.

Do not worry about screenshots of fines as they will be confirmed in the chatlogs regardless.

Code:

2020-03-04 11:37:27 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                [COP]Ludo99 was rewarded 434 €
2020-03-04 11:37:27 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                Ｔｒｉｓ was fined 434 [COP]Ludo99
2020-03-04 11:37:25 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                [COP]Ludo99 received 54XP
2020-03-04 11:37:25 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                Ｔｒｉｓ received 34XP
2020-03-04 11:37:25 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                Chase length: 4:38 / 6.9 km - Avg: 91km/h - Total cops: 1
2020-03-04 11:37:25 UTC    One (Weston Park Trackday)                Ｔｒｉｓ has been busted by [COP]Ludo99

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Replay 1: I found no reason for a high fine to be issued here, it should be expected that a suspect will try to maneuvers like this for their escape, as in rule 4.9.1 this is not a valid reason for a high fine.

Rule 4.9.1:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Quote:4.9.1. Variable Fines
Some offences can be charged with variable fines (low/med/high). When selecting a variable fine, all of the following factors must be taken into consideration:
- Severity of the violation
- Duration of the violation
- Repetition of the violation

Note: If the offence is "Failing to Stop", the Duration of the chase is already automatically accounted for. In this case, you should take into account only Severity and Repetition of other violations during the chase.

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Replay 2:

The drifting did not actively endanger anyone as incoming traffic has to give way to traffic in the roundabout. Snecek later on also runs a red light, however I can not see where the wrong way part that Ludo claimed Snecek did. Overall, neither the COP or other traffic were actively endangered here, making the fine invalid.

According to the official finelist this is the requirements that must be met for a dangerous driving fine: Driving in such a way that actively endangers other road user(s).

Link to the finelist: http://world.city-driving.co.uk/?page=ma...n=finelist

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Ludo will receive a confirmable warning regarding his choice of fines.

Thanks for the report.

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Action has been taken as described
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