- Merged Report: AD, Angel, and friends (Archived by Brad)

[Adorable]

Your LFS username: Racerss

Their LFS username(s): Many, check timestamps
Their in-game nickname(s): many

Main reason(s): Wrong siding

Replay and/or screenshot link: https://www.mediafire.com/?2itgileqque1tlz
Replay timestamps: Chase on the wrong side - 2:30:0
Katte wrong siding - 3:20:0
Angel / Fdraly - 5:30:0
Matte - 6:50:0
Shazo - 7:04:0
Angel - 12:00:0 (By accident)
Katte / COPs again - 13:00:0
Shazo again - 17:30:0
Angel / nitro - 19:45:0 (By accident)
Ehet - 22:00:0
Shazo again - 25:00:0
I'm in a chase and I get crashed - 28:40:0
More - 30:45:0


Description of incident (inc date & time): I can't stay a second on the server anymore. The wrong siding is so annoying. Peoples spamming inb4 report / glows spamming the chat.

I can't drive without applying full brakes / taking evasive actions. Look at how many timestamps! Is it ok to wrong side like that?? 3.21.2016

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[[6S] Angel]

Hey there! Okay, i know i've wrongsided alot but hey, dont u wrongside when u are in a chase or when you are being chased? As far as u dont hit anyone it's fine i think. Let me explain the timestaps u've stated above.
5:30:0-My suspect u turned and i couldnt react to it that fást and i didnt want to being slowed down by Enthu.
12:00-As u can see me and Ehet got crashed by a wrongsider and i couldnt handle my car. I've apologised for it tho.
19:45-I wanted to go back at the first chance but i failed it. When i chased you did the same, dont try to seem who's obey the rules all the time.

[Ehet]

I'm really really sorry that i hit you once wrong way Mr.AD

Quote:I can't stay a second on the server anymore. The wrong siding is so annoying. Peoples spamming inb4 report / glows spamming the chat.

Too bad you couldnt just turn around and drive anti clockwork, where the chance to get hit is way lower.
Oh yea, don't forget that there are two other servers online, where you could cruise, without getting rammed "all the time."

But yes, I can unterstand that a user like you, who obeys the rules all the time, who never annoys other people and who never got banned, makes a report because of this.
Especially when he was ramming me all the time during gumball.

[Adorable]

Spectate my car for the 30 minutes and speed up the replay by pressing F4.

I don't see how difficult it is to keep driving on the right side.

If you want to play pursuits then you better be very alert and keep watching the map.

Else, The risk is high to make errors and crash others like the case in here. In total, there are 13 timestamp, And that truly pissed me off. When I was writing in the chat: Right side pls
GUYS please drive on the right, OMG. etc...

Your reply was:

ChatLog Wrote:2016-03-21 19:51:36 [GLOW] Angel : get your facts ouuta there

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(2016-03-21 19:56)Ehet Wrote:  I'm really really sorry that i hit you once wrong way Mr.AD

Quote:I can't stay a second on the server anymore. The wrong siding is so annoying. Peoples spamming inb4 report / glows spamming the chat.

Too bad you couldnt just turn around and drive anti clockwork, where the chance to get hit is way lower.
Oh yea, don't forget that there are two other servers online, where you could cruise, without getting rammed "all the time."

But yes, I can unterstand that a user like you, who obeys the rules all the time, who never annoys other people and who never got banned, makes a report because of this.
Especially when he was ramming me all the time during gumball.

Come on, Why can't you drop that mentality?

You're still bringing up the same crap from the gumball events... Forget and get over it. (Not surprised that I got banned yesterday from the bumper cars event: http://postimg.org/image/ynyrekee1/)

1) I drive where I want
2) You're breaking the rules. (Rule 1.2 / 1.3 To be more precise)

[[6S] Angel]

Either my memory is bad or you just didnt copy and paste the full conversation
First i said sry MR:AD then u replied 6th wrong sider and still counting, i replied wasnt my fault k and get your facts ouuta there.

[Razz]

Hello.

Quote:Katte wrong siding - 3:20:0
Angel / Fdraly - 5:30:0
Matte - 6:50:0
Shazo - 7:04:0
Angel - 12:00:0
Katte / COPs again - 13:00:0
Shazo again - 17:30:0
Angel / nitro - 19:45:0
Ehet - 22:00:0
Shazo again - 25:00:0
I'm in a chase and I get crashed - 28:40:0
More - 30:45:0

The time stamp 19:45, where me and Angel were on the wrong side and passed you. No one took any damage, nor were there any crashes. In addition, we said "sorry" to you. Not sure what more you can ask. It's a game, and we're humans - mistakes happen. No ones perfect

0:26 - You nearly made a head on head collision with Fast, trying to overtake someone. Causing danger to another user. In fact, you didnt even say sorry. At least we said sorry when we crashed!

At 25:47 you were typing and were on the wrong side of the road. Typing whilst driving is not a wise option clearly. A safe option would be to pull up and type. Would you agree?

To add to that: We weren't "spamming". Not sure which part you meant that we were "spamming"

[Adorable]

At 25:47 My suspension was damaged and my car slipped to the wrong way. What's wrong with that? I didn't cause any accidents lol.

Stop trying to flip tables and use my own replay against me

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Spamming is the part where 3 Peoples repeats the same message again and again and again. GO GO [GLOW] / And there was a bit of provoking part from Sonic which I don't feel like posting here.

In the past 30 minutes I got rammed 13 times and I wasn't having a good time. The chat was annoying as I explained I have everything logged in case you want to see.

[Razz]

(2016-03-21 20:30)Mr.AD Wrote:  At 25:47 My suspension was damaged and my car slipped to the wrong way.

Suspension damage? Your car looks perfectly fine in the replay lol. It didnt slip, you just didnt turn the right way

Quote:Stop trying to flip tables and use my own replay against me

U Wot!

The funny thing is, I'm not trying

Quote:Spamming is the part where 3 Peoples repeats the same message again and again and again. GO GO [GLOW] / And there was a bit of provoking part from Sonic which I don't feel like posting here.

Well, I'm sure many teams do it too, we're not the first. I've seen GC do it too. And you can't complain of chat being spammed, when theres 38 people in the server. Not sure what you expect, the server to be dead silent?

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[Adorable]

I'm gonna drop this final post in here. Arguing with you won't get me anywhere, I've explained my point in the first post. That there was a lot of wrong siding going on and me being crashed 13 times.

The chat was being spammed at the time.

Here's a quick test: Drag and drop your chatlog's .txt file into google chrome.

Press ctrl + f and enter: go go [GLOW]
: was clocked @

Post the result down below. And notice how many times the same message is being repeated. Look at the scroll bar:

http://postimg.org/image/xkquzun3v/

Notice for how many instances the same message is being repeated.
And Sonic was provoking at the time, while being rammed 13 times.
I find it annoying.

€:

That's an example taken from the .mpr. Those are just the lines that were being sent, excluding inSim lines. It feels like being a popular twitch's chat channel with 110k ppls.

[[TC]►Cam◄]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post here or not, but given you've not included me in the report but then had the audacity to drop my name a few times, I find it very provocative and disrespectful. I'm posting as I feel I have the right to defend my corner.

(2016-03-21 20:30)Mr.AD Wrote:  / And there was a bit of provoking part from Sonic which I don't feel like posting here.

So why have you mentioned it? If you don't feel like posting it, why mention it at all?

But nah, that's alright... Let's just do it one more time

(2016-03-21 20:51)Mr.AD Wrote:  Notice for how many instances the same message is being repeated.
And Sonic was provoking at the time, while being rammed 13 times.
I find it annoying.

What's even more annoying is the fact you've not even provided any proof of what I have done? They are just claims made out of thin air... Oh, or was that why you didn't 'feel' like posting them? Shocker. But nah, you're still willing to squeeze out every ounce on this report remotely possible.

But yet you can still pull out a screenshot from your 'armoury' which happened yesterday when concerning other users.

How would you like it if I started throwing false claims around about you?
Oh, I also don't recall myself being rammed 13 times - Could you clarify that or at least make the effort to justify/make sense of that statement instead of posting a screen shot of text which clearly isn't going to show you/me (god knows what you mean) being rammed...

You try and pick people out like a needle in a haystack and it really does put players on edge and ruins the community for all.

[[6S] Angel]

Your LFS username: sergey29

Their LFS username(s): racerss
Their in-game nickname(s): [GC]Adorable

Main reason(s): Name calling / Insulting

Replay and/or screenshot link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vrvi1k4ehquku0...d.mpr?dl=0
Replay timestamps: From 25:58 3losh asked me question like
[COP] 3losh - [GLOW] Angel - do you wanna see me premban any more ?
[COP] 3losh - [GLOW] Angel - keep walking oldman
[GC] Adorable - [COP] 3losh - and for your information he is still a kiddo At 26:45
First i didnt want to report him for that because i was seriously thinking he would change, right after he came back from a really long ban for various reasons (including insulting and disrespecting others) but recent events have shown that he has not, hence im reporting him now.
Description of incident (inc date & time): Thursday Feb 25 around 12:25 2016

[Adorable]

It was one month ago.

And just said that you're still under 18 (which is true). Young. Youth. Explained it to you and didn't really mean it, furthermore I've even apologized in PMs.

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2016-02-25 13:25:56 [GC] Adorable : youth =))
2016-02-25 13:25:56 [GLOW] Angel : ah really AD?
2016-02-25 13:26:07 deviance connected (Gegry1992)
2016-02-25 13:26:08 deviance^L is from Hungary
2016-02-25 13:26:10 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - oh well not really a kiddo
2016-02-25 13:26:17 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - how do I translate...
2016-02-25 13:26:18 Lazy - Gegry1992 [2015-11-13 19:31 / 36m 30s]
2016-02-25 13:26:18 Lazy - ->from Hungary[17902 (+1250) km|2042 (+22) laps|10 wins|216 fin]
2016-02-25 13:26:18 [GC] Adorable : youth
2016-02-25 13:26:21 [GC] Adorable : ~18?
2016-02-25 13:26:23 deviance : just came here to play at work haha
2016-02-25 13:26:32 deviance : [GLOW] Angel - legyszi kuldj xfg setupot
2016-02-25 13:26:32 [GLOW] Angel : would be bad if u would get a ban again
2016-02-25 13:26:43 [GLOW] Angel : for insulting, maybe?
2016-02-25 13:26:45 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - oh come on now.
2016-02-25 13:26:49 deviance left the pits (XFG)
2016-02-25 13:26:50 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - I didn't insult you
2016-02-25 13:26:53 [GLOW] Angel : u did
2016-02-25 13:27:00 deviance : [GLOW] Angel - pls
2016-02-25 13:27:01 [GLOW] Angel : so what did u mean by kiddo?
2016-02-25 13:27:05 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - Sorry but aren't you "youth" google translation?
2016-02-25 13:27:09 [GC] Adorable: [CH] chabab
2016-02-25 13:27:14 [CSR] GoldEST left the pits (FZ5)
2016-02-25 13:27:15 [GC] Adorable : ~18 yo
2016-02-25 13:27:17 deviance : ^J«LBD.Freddy - Freddo?
2016-02-25 13:27:17 [GC] Adorable : he said old man
2016-02-25 13:27:19 KM^sMOTORSPORT pitted
2016-02-25 13:27:19 GEENTL is connecting...
2016-02-25 13:27:22 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - i'm saving you
2016-02-25 13:27:23 [GC] Adorable : lol
2016-02-25 13:27:32 deviance : [GLOW] Angel - save me!

Go to yamli.com , write chabab, get the arabic version, translate it to english in translate.google.com

He said old man, and I said he's still young. I'll get the PMs. I'm actually defending him, and he's reporting me... (a month later which is weird)

2016-02-25 13:47:13 [GC] Adorable: [PM] HEy
2016-02-25 13:47:17 [GLOW] Angel: [PM] hi
2016-02-25 13:47:29 [GC] Adorable: [PM] I'm sorry for calling you a kid. thought I meant something completely different
2016-02-25 13:47:43 [GLOW] Angel: [PM] ok
2016-02-25 13:47:46 [GC] Adorable: [PM] Well, I just hope that we can get back as we used to
2016-02-25 13:47:50 [GC] Adorable: [PM] skype ts etc
2016-02-25 13:47:53 [GC] Adorable: [PM]
2016-02-25 13:47:57 [GLOW] Angel: [PM] lol
2016-02-25 13:48:01 [GC] Adorable: [PM] I don't want u as an enemy
2016-02-25 13:48:04 [GC] Adorable: [PM] i dont wanna fight
2016-02-25 13:48:04 ! abo34ary ^L- MOVE FOR POLICE »»»
2016-02-25 13:48:09 [GC] Adorable: [PM] i just wanna drive
2016-02-25 13:48:13 [GLOW] Angel: [PM] good, me neither
2016-02-25 13:48:27 [GC] Adorable: [PM] Sweet

[Adorable]

Your LFS username: Racerss

Their LFS username(s): sergey29
Their in-game nickname(s): [GLOW] Angel

Main reason(s): Wrong siding / Causing accident / Provoking.

Replay and/or screenshot link: https://www.mediafire.com/?9nfdbbe6yeeuiin
Replay timestamps: Passes me on the wrong side dangerously - 46:15:0

Conversation with him Wrote:2016-03-22 13:40:22 [GC] Adorable : [GLOW] Angel - Right side please =>
2016-03-22 13:40:25 [GC] Adorable :
// Kindly asking him to drive on the right side
2016-03-22 13:41:07 [GLOW] Angel : [GC] Adorable - why do u tell me that if u are doing the same?
2016-03-22 13:41:18 [GC] Adorable : Atleast i'm not not crashing anyone
2016-03-22 13:41:23 [GLOW] Angel : did i?
2016-03-22 13:41:26 [GC] Adorable : Nor making other forced to take evasive actions
2016-03-22 13:41:29 [GC] Adorable : to evade a crash
2016-03-22 13:41:32 [GC] Adorable : Do you understand?
2016-03-22 13:41:39 [GLOW] Angel : u dont have either...
2016-03-22 13:41:56 [GC] Adorable : Don't have what?
2016-03-22 13:42:08 [GLOW] Angel : u dont have to avoid me
// Right, he's telling me to crash him and that it's ok to wrong side, trying to justify what he's doing... although he's wrong siding and he's the one on the wrong here.
2016-03-22 13:42:17 [GC] Adorable : You'll report me for crashing on purpose on you then.
2016-03-22 13:42:42 [GLOW] Angel : how would it be puropse if i might be on the wrong side
// Well, He's not to drive on the wrong side, (rule 1.3) he crashed me yesterday severals time, as you can check the timestamps on the other report.
2016-03-22 13:43:03 [GC] Adorable : I dont want you on the wrong side / you'r ebreaking the rules
2016-03-22 13:43:05 [GC] Adorable : 1.3
2016-03-22 13:43:22 [GLOW] Angel : u were drifting on the wrong side before
2016-03-22 13:43:37 [GC] Adorable : When there was nobody driving on it!
// Yes, I check the map before doing anything dangerous.
2016-03-22 13:43:43 [GLOW] Angel : so
2016-03-22 13:43:44 [GC] Adorable : but you passed me dangerously
2016-03-22 13:43:54 [GC] Adorable : Do you still wanna argue?
2016-03-22 13:44:03 [GC] Adorable : Or should I raise another timestamp ?

50:10:0 - He's on the wrong side again and caused an accident this time.

*End of the conversation*

58:37:0 - My brother is crashed on the road, I'm helping him. He crashes us and say:

Angel Wrote:2016-03-22 13:52:39 [GLOW] Angel: [PRIV] move
2016-03-22 13:52:42 [GLOW] Angel: [PRIV] out of the way
2016-03-22 13:52:44 [GLOW] Angel: [PRIV] like now
2016-03-22 13:52:45 [GC] Adorable : what do you mean by move?
2016-03-22 13:52:47 [GC] Adorable : You move
2016-03-22 13:52:49 [GLOW] Angel: [PRIV] what do u think
2016-03-22 13:52:52 [GC] Adorable : I'm helping someone
2016-03-22 13:52:56 [GLOW] Angel: [PRIV] so
2016-03-22 13:52:59 [GC] Adorable : So?
2016-03-22 13:53:00 [GC] Adorable : You leave

Description of incident (inc date & time): Who's provoking / Wrong siding? Seriously. It truly turns my heart into pieces, We are a community, a family, this is not how we should treat each other, And thats not the act of a member of a family if he's gonna provoke reactions like he's doing and/or ruining the fun by wrong siding and forcing me to take evasive actions.

And Angel please, Don't reply for the sake of speeding up the process, and making it easier for the admins to review the report, rather than giving him a headache with massive threads. And no, I dont try to pick peoples out like a needle in a haystack like some peoples are saying.

Yours sincerely.

[[6S] Angel]

Hi there, again. At the first timestap i've tried to get better lines to be faster with Wheel but yes, i didnt see you, didnt even check the map before, sorry for that. Yes i told u to crash into me instead of crashing into the barrier which is may cause more damage than me. I really really dont know what crashes are u talking about yesterday's report but okay. Then i caused an accident because i was typing to you and i wasnt concentrating to the road. Then u and your brother were on the road, i crashed into you bcuz i couldnt brake then i thought u will park your car and let the cars passing by but that didnt happen. It seems it's not a family for you since u are trying to get ppl banned for little things, who u dont really like as we've seen it already.

[Adorable]

1) I'm not trying to get peoples banned. I want you to treat me with a better way.

2) Notice how irrelevant and of a problematic nature your comments are:

Angel Wrote:2016-03-22 15:58:46 [GLOW] Angel : [GC] Adorable - ah thanks for the report.. gonna reply to it soon
// Thanking me for reporting him in the main chat. and because I wrote Angel please dont reply, he says, gonna reply to it soon
2016-03-22 15:59:07 [GC] Adorable : You're free to do whatever you like
2016-03-22 15:59:14 [GC] Adorable :
2016-03-22 15:59:30 [GLOW] Angel : then did u write to me that please dont reply?
// Still trying to provoke And I've just ignored him...

[[6S] Angel]

I asked him ingame how can it be provoking if i just asked him why did he say that please Angel dont reply to it if after that he wrote do whatever u want, but he refused it and wrote [GC] Adorable: [PM] Do not PM me. We cant solve the problems if u dont want to talk with me.

[Adorable]

Admins will solve problems.

You reported me yesterday: http://forum.city-driving.co.uk/showthre...?tid=21871

For making a mistake, by using a wrong adjective due to my english skills. Although I was defending you, And apologised to you in PMs, Who's trying to get other players banned now?

Furthermore, I've tried more than once to try to repair things, Since the day that I got off my 104 days ban I'm trying to build a better reputation, remember:

Quote:2016-02-25 13:47:46 [GC] Adorable: [PM] Well, I just hope that we can get back as we used to
2016-02-25 13:47:50 [GC] Adorable: [PM] skype ts etc
2016-02-25 13:47:53 [GC] Adorable: [PM] Smile
2016-02-25 13:48:01 [GC] Adorable: [PM] I don't want u as an enemy
2016-02-25 13:48:04 [GC] Adorable: [PM] i dont wanna fight
2016-02-25 13:48:09 [GC] Adorable: [PM] i just wanna drive Smile

When I made this report, why do you think that now is the right time to solve problems?

[[TC] Brad]

This report is being looked into. Please be patient.

[[TC] Brad]

Okay, I’ve merged the 3 reports by AD and Angel into one and there are some over-lapping points that are better addressed as a whole in my opinion.

I also looked at all the relevant replays and time-stamps and below is my opinion:

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AD: I understand you believe the time-stamps within your generic report to be noteworthy but I seriously suggest you re-calibrate your measure of what is and isn’t worth a report. Most of these things were either already dealt with in-game (such as those which were clearly unfortunate accidents for which the offending user apologised) or are minor incidents that are seriously misusing our time.

Your 2nd report did have a little more basis, and that’s discussed a little later. However, I still think both of these could/should have been dealt with on the server in a calmer manner rather than involving us.

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Angel: Similar to the above point, do you really think—looking back on it with a clearer head—that saying “he is still a kiddo” should be report-worthy? I’m not sure if this is an attempt at retaliation for AD’s initial report which included you (among many, many others) but it certainly doesn’t warrant intervention from us.

The thing is, you report AD for insulting, but then the amount of sly-comments you direct to him means that it is just pure hypocrisy.

In terms of AD’s 2nd report, however, I do think you have something to answer for in terms of causing an accident (albeit a brushing of paintwork) on wrong side and refusing to apologise. Also, the issue is you generally being argumentative with him, i.e. when you hit him on H1 as he was helping to TOW.

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However, the main point you both (and others, potentially) need to take from this is that it's a complete waste of our time when we could be using that time to instead deal with actual rule-breakers rather than intervening in petty arguments caused by people being either too argumentative or too trigger-happy in terms of reporting / threatening to report.

If you want TC members to lose interest as a result of having to deal with these kinder-garden incidents then continue, but if you actually want the community to stay together and stay active, then I’d seriously consider you both re-assess your actions and try to look at things with a clearer head in future.

We’re all adults—please act like it. If that isn't possible, then we'll start restricting people's ability to post User Reports.

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No action has been taken for reasons described.

Thank you for your report.

It has now been moved to the archives.