+ Reporting 2 users (Report Archived by Crille)

[KaraK [T]]

I'm doing this report in 2 parts, first part is of 1 cop, and the second part is of the other cop.
The reasons I'm reporting these two are:
- No communication
- From my car it seemed like they were ramming the suspect (though most of the time they turned out not be)
- Disrespecting COP1 COP2
- Dangerous/annoying behaviour in the chase

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Report 1
Reported username: maqed
Reported nickname: CBR_Adiii [COP]

Timestamps:
31:26 - I left the pits and joined the chase in a tank setup (my suspect had one)
31:37 - He joins the chase
34:40 - Rams his suspect
37:30 - Decides to overtake me, while there was no need to, and afterwards causes a crash with the suspect. I then run into him.
37:45 - Again overtakes me, this time with an actual reason, but still disrespecting COP1 COP2.
38:10 - Decides to call for backup, while he's not the leading cop.
40:06 - Hits the suspect's door rather hard.
40:20 - Tries to undertake me, disrespecting COP1 COP2 once again.
41:45 - Wants to keep his place, being dangerous to the other cop.
42:07 - No idea what he tried to do, but he ended up hitting the other cop, causing them both to spin out. They were both wrong here imo. He said sorry.
46:18 - Suddenly slows down, no idea why.
46:38 - Rough 'PIT' , not sure.
52:36 - Overtakes the cop behind me, tries to overtake me (I was really annoyed by the fact they both kept disrespecting COP1 COP2, so I started to block overtakes I didn't agree with.) without success.
55:00 - We bust the suspect.

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Report 2 (Click to View)

Reported username: buccolieri96
Reported nickname: Buccolieri96[COP]

Timestamps:
33:46 - Leaves the pits
38:50 - Gets to the chase
41:05 - Some XFG hits him (no sorry) Username: themaska82
42:07 - Collision with Adiii
44:51 - Starts to overtake on a highway, with me right behind the suspect, without asking.
46:18 - Undertakes, causing danger, did not ask anything. Afterwards I try to stop him and make him aware that he should respect COP1 COP2. Sorry for that, lol, but I was pissed.
49:13 - Tries to PIT with oncoming traffic.
51:41 - Again wants to overtake me without asking.

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Replay:
http://www.mediafire.com/?j1p2z21bsefa4t1

[Adampower]

FYI, Report 2 has had rights revoked today by Savy. I don't have 30mins spare at the moment to take a look. Other admins can take this if they want. Also you have done !report ingame as well as a forum report, you should do one or the other.

[KaraK [T]]

Yeah, Rifo told me today.
I thought you had to do both, but apparently not.

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Sorry for the huge report btw

[[TC] Crille]

On it

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Replay doesn't work. Reupload please.

[KaraK [T]]

http://www.mediafire.com/?sgc2rnlqunj8czn

There you go

[adi800]

Quote:- No communication

Mouse driving - do you know what it means ?

Quote:34:40 - Rams his suspect

- I wanted to block his path but as you can see - TC slowed me down at grass. Looks like ramming, agree but it wasn't the purpose

Quote:38:10 - Decides to call for backup, while he's not the leading cop.

Mistaken my blinds

Quote:41:45 - Wants to keep his place, being dangerous to the other cop.

Never think about fight for place in chase like you.




Maybe this chase wasn't perfect, maybe I need to practise PIT, but it doesnt matter. I had never seen more stupid behavior than KaraK in this chase. He always want to be first, always want be a leader - just like a KID. He never rebuked about cop1 cop2 rule, only blocked my way all time (I didn't know what he's trying - dangerous behavior). Of course I know and respect cop1 cop2 rule BUT if leading cop is slower - we may (even should) overtake him. So KaraK - you should say something as a trainer.

Pity that such persons like this guy learning others cop if he don't know what's going on.

[Adampower]

I have viewed the reply and a decision is being made, just waiting for a Private Message reply.

[KaraK [T]]

(2012-07-02 22:26)adi800 Wrote:  Mouse driving - do you know what it means ?

You got binds for that. I'm on keyboard, but that doesn't stop me from communicating with other cops when I'm up front.

Quote:Mistaken my blinds

No problem.

Quote:I had never seen more stupid behavior than KaraK in this chase. He always want to be first, always want be a leader - just like a KID. He never rebuked about cop1 cop2 rule, only blocked my way all time (I didn't know what he's trying - dangerous behavior).

You're right, I was being dangerous as well. Sorry for that, but if I'm telling you (or someone else), not to overtake me when there's no need for, then why do you keep doing it? I don't like it when people overtake me with no reason, so this is the way I let them know when they don't want to listen.

Quote:Of course I know and respect cop1 cop2 rule BUT if leading cop is slower - we may (even should) overtake him. So KaraK - you should say something as a trainer.

Yes, you can overtake slower cops, but you shouldn't when the cop is near the suspect, able to do a maneuver, or able to stay close to him. This is what happened a couple of times. If you'd spectate me while chasing on the servers, you'll see me making way for cops behind me, because they are faster than me, and I can't keep up with the suspect well enough. I also did this during this chase.
Oh, and you should still ask someone if you can overtake, or at least tell them you're going to, instead of just driving past someone.

[[TC] Crille]

I checked the replay yesterday but forgott to reply, sorry.

Maqed, your coprights have been revoked due to: Overtaking when clearly not needed. Just because you can overtake doesn't mean you should. I am not refering to all of the overtakes that Karak mentioned but those that where just not needed, like when Karak or the other COP was close enough to the suspect.

Poor P.I.T manouvers. Many where badly placed and some training could do you good here.

Speeding. You might want to change your gear ratio since you where speeding with 3-4km/h on both 120km/h and 160km/h roads and also you went 20+km/h over the speedlimit on 2 of the 3 100km/h roads that we have on Montana.


Thx for the report!

(2012-07-03 09:30)KaraK Wrote:  

(2012-07-02 22:26)adi800 Wrote:  Mouse driving - do you know what it means ?

You got binds for that. I'm on keyboard, but that doesn't stop me from communicating with other cops when I'm up front.

Quote:Mistaken my blinds

No problem.

Quote:I had never seen more stupid behavior than KaraK in this chase. He always want to be first, always want be a leader - just like a KID. He never rebuked about cop1 cop2 rule, only blocked my way all time (I didn't know what he's trying - dangerous behavior).

You're right, I was being dangerous as well. Sorry for that, but if I'm telling you (or someone else), not to overtake me when there's no need for, then why do you keep doing it? I don't like it when people overtake me with no reason, so this is the way I let them know when they don't want to listen.

Quote:Of course I know and respect cop1 cop2 rule BUT if leading cop is slower - we may (even should) overtake him. So KaraK - you should say something as a trainer.

Yes, you can overtake slower cops, but you shouldn't when the cop is near the suspect, able to do a maneuver, or able to stay close to him. This is what happened a couple of times. If you'd spectate me while chasing on the servers, you'll see me making way for cops behind me, because they are faster than me, and I can't keep up with the suspect well enough. I also did this during this chase.
Oh, and you should still ask someone if you can overtake, or at least tell them you're going to, instead of just driving past someone.

Telling or asking before overtaking isn't required. If all cops are clear on when an overtake is helpful/needed then they can just overtake you instead of having to ask for permission.

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Action has been taken as described.

Thank you for your report.

It has now been moved to the archives.